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How joel advertise CityDesk I googled CityDesk and find many links are from personal blogs.
redguardtoo
Fat Bastard
www.joelonsoftware.com has some stuff just to attract people. That's it. That's why I am here. Some times I feel that his articles are bit exaggerated. Especially when he talks about statistics.
Ramu Karyat
"Especially when he talks about statistics".
Nemesis
Seriously though, it seems as if Joel has invested in his blog and forums rather than more traditional advertising.
Nemesis
78% of people who claim that statistics are made up are usually right.
OJ bin Laden
I think the "Joel on Software" approach to marketing CityDesk is clever. People - often those who are in a position to recommend products within their org - become convinced that Joel, Fog Creek, and CityDesk are all superb, because they read so much that goes on behind the scenes.
Herr Herr
And didn't he advertise in a few magazines?
www.MarkTAW.com
Oh, and he had an affiliate program, but gave up on it (too much overhead for not enough profit).
www.MarkTAW.com
Joel still need to learn about Six Sigma, CMM and ISO.
Ramu Karyat
I was always curious about Six Sigma, CMM sounds interesting too. Care to elaborate?
www.MarkTAW.com
I remember one of the Joel articles was bit contemptous about the Six Sigma and stuff. Sorry, I don't remember the article. I think a company like FogCreek ( as far as I know from the Joel Spolsky blog ) can save lot of money using Six Sigma techniques. May be Joel Spolsky not aware about that.
Ramu Karyat
Sorry, I meant "What is Six Sigma (the Cliff Notes version)? But I'll look to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma to answer my question.
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Six Sigma is a data-driven management system with near-perfect-performance objectives that has been employed to acclaim at leading corporations like General Electric. Its name is derived from the eye-catching statistical target of operating with no more than 3.4 defects per one million chances, but Peter Pande, Robert Neuman, and Roland Cavanagh--associates in a firm providing Six Sigma implementation, training, and management services--contend its principles can be applied in businesses of all types to routinely reduce costs, improve productivity, increase market share, and achieve other positive results. The Six Sigma Way is their comprehensive self-help guide to adapting and using the system under various conditions. Its first two parts cover fundamentals and provide specific suggestions for aligning the process with individual needs and goals. (These include sections on balancing potential costs and benefits, clarifying objectives, and defining time frames.) The final part, which accounts for more than half the book, focuses on implementation through a detailed yet flexible five-step "road map" tied to a company's core processes, key customers, current performance, "high-potential improvement opportunities," and future practices. While the procedure is quite complex, diligent managers should be able to bring at least basic components to their organization with the tools and techniques provided. --Howard Rothman
Ramu Karyat
Forgot the link
Ramu Karyat
I've worked on software for Statistical Process Control in the past - companies that make a physical product (e.g. printed circuit boards on a production line) can definitely benefit from six sigma approaches (analysing the process and cutting out defects early stops more expensive issues being raised later).
Steve Power
Hmm. I remembered that Six Sigma referred to a statistical deviation (or I guess in this case, a relative lack thereof). That part being just a concept, I would imagine the focus of Sig Sigma is on implementation, which is the part I never understood. HOW do you get to the point where your quality control is that good. Wikipedia points out DMAIC and DMADV, but it seems like pretty standard rubbish to me. "Figure out why things aren't as good as they can be & make them better," seems to be all it really says.
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This is a debate that is going on. But now companies have already remoulded it for software development and they are successful in that. One such global sofware services company is Wipro Technologies. See how they have applied it in software development. http://www.wipro.com/aboutus/quality/sixsigma.htm
Ramu Karyat
Any one really familar with six sigma knows it applies to the manufacturing process, not the design process. General Motors applies six sigma to the making of cars, but not their design.
Dennis Atkins
Sounds like some people have high-jacked the phrase Six Sigma and applied it to some sound development principles that they recommend.
Steve Power
he doesn't. losers like you and I buy from him.
Viral marketing my ass
Bah, this is too easy.
not convinced
> Joel still need to learn about Six Sigma, CMM and ISO.
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