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Joel's plea for contenteditable

I've been whining at the Mozilla/Firefox group for what seems like years now to implement contenteditable and the latest news I heard is that it's "too hard"!.

If true, this is a tragedy, because Jon Udell (ex Byte magazine) had a vision I share, which he called the 'universal canvas' and which would enable rich UI content to be completely browser-hosted.

Using Windows/IE/VB6 I have built large commercial systems where the UI was all done using IE embedded in VB6 and where IE also provided printing services - no more Crystal reports (yay!). But wonderful though Mozilla and Firefox are, their development teams have chosen not to implement contenteditable, and at the same time can't seem to get SVG support into their standard builds either!.

This situation has now dragged on for more than two years.

Reading Joel's most recent comments about this, I feel incredibly depressed that I cannot implement an Open Source alternative to this Microsoft-only solution, despite the fact that as a rendering subsystem, ironically, it is completely free of API dependencies at all. Here we have MS with a system that is, essentially, Windows-independent which I cannot in fact port to a non-Windows environment!. (I'd happily replace VB with Java, say, but I still need to embed the browser!).

Andrew Mayo
Friday, June 18, 2004

See the "Browser" project at .  This lets you embed a native browser into your application.  Works on Windows, Linux/Gtk+, and Solaris.

Friday, June 18, 2004

Have you tried Midas (

Jussi Kukkonen
Friday, June 18, 2004

Mozilla has something equivalent to contentEditable...  move along people.

Almost Anonymous
Friday, June 18, 2004


But if you want a complete application why not use XUL?

Simon Lucy
Friday, June 18, 2004

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