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Visual Studio 2005 Team System

I just had a look at the Visual Studio 2005 Team System website:

I have to say it looks pretty impressive, but I wonder how expensive it'll be for all those goodies.

Eventually, we may get to a true IDE, where it does everything you need to get the job done and you don't need to load up peripheral applications, etc.

Steve Jones (UK)
Friday, May 28, 2004

It would seem that VS 2005:TS edition is the replacement for VS:Enterprise Dev, so set that pricing expection there.

As far as the VS Team Foundation server, I imagine that's still as up in the air as it gets.

Greg Hurlman
Friday, May 28, 2004

From his last blog entry, Eric Sink suspects (hopes more likely - for the sake of his company) that the pricing for Team System will be competitive with the IBM/Rational sweet of products, and last I checked, the total price of that stuff for our company would have come to about $AU7,000 per developer.

I think he is probably right about that price estimate for single licences, but I would assume that the product will more than likely be included in MSDN Universal.

Can anybody confirm though if VSS forms the "new enterprise class source control platform" for this system? I read on the VSS site at MSDN that the 2004/5 version has a new database structure that allows 4GB databases, if that is the case, it is a joke - our Vault database is nearly 6GB now - so I don't think we would be switching back.

Chris Ormerod
Saturday, May 29, 2004

No, VSS is not part of the Team System. An entirely new source control system that's based on private sandboxes is what's part of Team System.

VSS is still a separate beast that will finally be marketed properly: as a source control tool for individuals or very small, geographically located teams.

Brad Wilson (
Sunday, May 30, 2004

...for stupid individuals that haven't heard about the free single-user versions of Perforce or SourceGear Vault, that is. :)

Chris Nahr
Sunday, May 30, 2004

There are plenty of free solutions, including solutions that scale well geographically and to large teams and large databases. That's really not the issue. Some people wish to pay for large scale tools when they have large teams, not because the software is worth it, but rather because the support and hand-holding are worth it.

Brad Wilson (
Sunday, May 30, 2004

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