Should I stay or should I go?
I've spent the last 8 months working for a small public ISV which has seen some hard times. Although they seem to be slowly crawling out of their dot-bomb hole, it's obviously gonna be a long, slow slog.
I stayed 12 years in one place, 4 months in the next. Does that make me a job-hopper? I'd tell an interviewer that my record shows that I'm willing to stay, iff the place is right.
Tought question. If you stay will there be trouble? And If you go will it be double?
heheh, Dave, you silly
Find yourself another position and then give a notice to your current employer. If during the the search for better work place you find companies that think you are a job hopper - just hop over them and go to the next company. Since you are not in rush to change jobs you can (and should be) selective.
Job Hopper (aka SW Contractor)
"So You Gotta Let Me Know OHHHHHHHHHH......."
Usually the companies that talk of terms like job-hopping are also the ones who will not hesitate for a minute to reduce staff when it suits their purposes. They use those terms as tools of intimidation, propaganda and control.
I've been worried about that in the past, but always more than I should I have been. For example, I had a couple of multi-year jobs, got laid off, then took a new one that was just god-awful. I interviewed for something else about six weeks later, and I was concerned about how to explain it. But it never even came up (and I got the job).
In my experience, I haven't gotten a negative reaction to any job lasting longer than a year... mind you, that *longer* than a year - exactly a year has raised an eyebrow or 3.
This indecisions bugging me...
I've left 2 jobs with less than 1 year at each. Never an issue. When its time to go - then leave. It will take a month or 2 to find your best offer anyway. Use a cell phone to take calls and exit your employer's building when taking them.
It mattered once upon a time. When I started working in the 60s you entered a company with all intentions of staying for life. There were often multi-generational connections going to work where your dad and grandad worked all their lives as well. The companies too hired people with the belief that it would be a lifelong relationship.
The employment history shouldn’t be an issue if they like you and you have a solid skill set. If you get negged b/c of it then they didn’t want you to begin with. I have heard that 2 years is the base norm to stay at one place. I’m not sure that that rule still applies after the bust.
"One thing that annoys me are the companies with lengthy vesting periods for stock options and 401K matching"
Anytime things have gotten bad enough that you're asking complete strangers on a message board about your career choices (and using your real name), then I would say it's time to move on.
yet another anon
thanks for the advice - BTW, it's not my real name, dude ;-)
Also, asking here is not really like asking "complete strangers" - there are probably more years of professional SW dev experience here than in any peer group one may have.
I just told my fiery tempered boss my co-worker, also happens to be named Greg Sabaras, was on his way out. Ohhh boy. The shits really going to hit the fan now...
Funny! Sabara (pronounced SAB-A-RAH) is a word my younger brother made up about ten years ago. Always prefixed with an utterly generic name, i.e:
Well said old_timer
I started this thinking when I was in middle-school, there were the jocks, the cool kids, and then my-group. There was always the feeling that I am not right in this situation, these guys suck, that kind of rhetoric. After some growth, I have learned it will make me a much stronger person to work with people who I may not see eye-to-eye with initially. It may be a testament to you as a person if you can change the attitude of management, you may be able(in small increments at first) to change the culture if you speak up and pinpoint flaws in your organization. Once you leave your job, you may end up in a similar environment, except now you have to start all over again, building relationships and such.
Berlin, it's interesting you bring this up- because while I'm having similar thoughts - the fact remains that this corp has had nearly 100% management turnover in it's short history - and the "culture" reflects it
Greg, I think these days any period longer than 3 months counts as lengthy, anything less is project or short term. They're not negatives.
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