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Curse of the 4.0 We have a project in the works that would normally be released as v4.0. One manager insists that the number 4 be skipped for the reasons that other softwares with v4.0 have been poor, and the word for 4 in Japanese also means death, so Japanese people won't want to buy it.
Walt
Name it Product XP, or product XT, or Product NX, then go on with Product XP 5, etc.
Johnny Bravo
"4" is cursed:
nat ersoz
MPEG 4 = DivX, a very widely used standard and codec.
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MPEG-4 != DivX. DivX is MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile PLUS proprietary Extensions. Also, the DivX 5.x Encoder does not produce valid MPEG-4 streams but proprietary streams embedded in either AVI, Ogg, etc.
Johnny Bravo
Walt,
Johnny Bravo
I know in Chinese that 4 is bad luck and means death, but I didn't know it was the same for Japanese. My family has never been superstitious about the number 4.
Rory
Release numbers are a marketing issue. As
son of parnas
Yup, 4 is pronounced "shi" in sino-japanese.. just like death :-)
Frederic Faure
Use the Fibonacci sequence:
Harvey Motulsky
Our company had a number of products, each with its own version number. When it merged them into one suite, it chose 4 as the version number for the suite, because it was higher than the version number of any of the components. So nobody thought they were going backwards.
David Clayworth
So 4.13.666 wouldn't be too good? :-)
DJ
I don't know about Japanese, but in Mandarin, "four" is pronounced "si4" (suh, falling tone), and death is pronounced "si3" (suh, falling then rising tone). And yah, some folks are a bit superstitious about that. Had a girlfriend once whose mother flipped a bit when her dorm room number had a four in it.
Alyosha`
how about 3+1?
offbase
You could do what the Word for Windows team did ... version 1.0, 2.0, and then 6.0. Why 6.0? Cause WordPerfect was at version 5.1 at the time.
Alyosha`
It's not just hotels, and it's not just 13. In Vancouver, most new buildings don't have any 4, 13, 14, 24 or any other floor that has a 4 in it. IIRC, it's actually the Chinese number for death.
Tim Sullivan
>>So 4.13.666 wouldn't be too good? :-)
HeyCoolAid!
Stick with prime numbers. Keeps everybody happy.
Dennis Atkins
Didn't Sun confuse the heck out of people going from Solaris 2.X to Solaris 8 ? I think it became a joke of sorts for our SA’s, but look how well they are doing now.
m
I speak Japanese, and yes a way of pronouncing 4 has the same sound as the Japanese word for death. But modern Japanese people aren't so superstitious that they would avoid a version 4.
Matthew Lock
You could always go for the "classical" approach, e.g. WidgetWare IV... anyone who doesn't like the connotations of four could just pronounce it "eye-vee", though I suppose that might be problematic in languages like Mandarin that don't have a "v" sound natively.
John C.
Product 2004
www.MarkTAW.com
How about Product 3.999?
runtime
I can't disagree with Oracle on that one. I'm a developer but I'm still not trusting of 1.0 versions. I always number my apps starting at 1.1 -- for whatever reason, that just feels better!
Almost Anonymous
"note that many hotels don't have no 13th floor."
Not Negative
"Have you ever programming using boolean logic?"
www.MarkTAW.com
17 is normally considered the unlucky number in Italy, not 13. And possibly for the same reasons as the 4. In Roman numerals it's XVII, an anagram of the latin vixi, or modern Italian vissi, "I lived", as in no longer living. At least that's the story...
Pietro
>In Vancouver, most new buildings don't have any 4, 13, 14, 24 or any other floor that has a 4 in it.
chris
Yes, Chris, you're very clever. :-)
Tim Sullivan
Almost Anon:
Tim Sullivan
how f@cking stupid.
GuyIncognito
> how about 3+1?
Brian
"I know in Chinese that 4 is bad luck and means death, but I didn't know it was the same for Japanese."
Jon Hanna
Everybody keeps saying that Word for Windows skipped from 2.0 to 6.0 to compete with WordPerfect 5.1. While that may have been part of it, remember MS Word for DOS?
Jeff Robertson
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