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Step #231 in the spam escalation wars
Simon Lucy
One word: SpamAssassin.
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Oh, okay, that was just dramatic. :) If you're a Windows user, and your e-mail comes in via POP3, then SAproxy is what you want. Fully enclosed copy of SpamAssassin that masquerades as a POP3 proxy. I was using it while my mail host was fixing their broken SpamAssassin install. Brilliant, it is. :)
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Well yes, though its pretty much equivalent to what I already use, combining Bayesian filters and header analysis. So its going to have to handle exactly the same thing.
Simon Lucy
My ISP offers SpamAssassin, and it *is* very good. But the nonsense-text spams mentioned above have been leaking through to an alarming degree over the last week or two.
Hardware Guy
By the way, has everyone else's (in the US) phone stopped ringing?
Philo
It got to the stage at work where I would physically disconnect the phone because it was ringing so much. It was only fax machines as well *sigh* Recently it got better, so now I just pick up, it bleeps, and then I lay the headset on the desk. It must cost idiots who can't work fax machines a shed load of money.
This has been about for a while on usenet, Simon. Step 232 is something which follows that thing about humans being able to read words even when they are misspelt as long as the beginning and end is correct. Not that it helps when I spamcop them, but I'm sure it makes them feel better, even if it makes them appear illiterate.
"The HTML component"
Bill Godfrey
Maybe you don't communicate with very many people. Lots of normal people, i.e. those who aren't programmers, use HTML email as a matter of course...
Chris Nahr
I don't think Bill's strange, but maybe automatic deletion is a bit extreme. I filter all HTML mail into a separate mailbox, which I find makes it easier to spot the very rare good messages. It's true that a lot of people do send HTML mails, but often because it's turned on by default, not because they use the formatting features, and everyone I know has been quite happy to turn HTML off when asked.
as
I filter out all html mail as well.
Well my mail client helpfully adds a text component to HTML mail only to say 'there's nothing here' so that doesn't bother me.
Simon Lucy
There's chance (probably a darn good one) Bayesian filter is not the end all solution. But technically speaking poisoning has to be done intelligently to have much bang for the effort. From what Graham explains it's clear that random words that have no relevance in one's world (what he communicates over email) will not score high. But if say a email address harvester can infer whether an email address holder loves barbie or enjoys surfing. That's key in poisoning the statistical outcome in a way that might get you some where.
Li-fan Chen
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