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Thinkpad T40/t41 or Dell Latitude Hello All,
JCA
I've got the T40p model and I'm pretty happy with it. T41p even comes now with a better hard-disk and processor...
DP
If you have the money go for IBMs
I know this is going to sound petty, but Thinkpad keyboards aggravate me (I'm using one now). The control, windows, and alt keys on the bottom-left of a normal keyboard are Fn, control, alt on a thinkpad.
Steve H
I've had the D600 for several months now as my primary machine, and everything about it is great--relatively light, bright screen, nice keyboard, good specs--except for one thing: Dell has moved to allowing the screen to touch the keyboard when the lid is closed, so there's a gradual wear pattern that develops slowly on the screen, which becomes noticeable after a year or so on a dark or dim screen. Dell replaced the lid/screen for one laptop I had that this happened to, but I don't know how much longer they'll do that.
Justin Johnson
I have a T41 and it's unbelievable. Nice and thin, spec'd out beyond my needs (impressive considering I'm a developer - the only modification I made on my model was to get a CD-RW instead of a DVD). they cost a bit more, but I don't think I could go back.
For quality no questions about IBM is way better
the artist formerly known as prince
I've been very happy with the build quality of my ThinkPad (T30), and the one time it needed service, the response from IBM was excellent. I would definitely buy from them again...
Tim Lara
IBM are expensive. And AMAZINGLY good. The thinkpads all come with a 3 year warranty. They boot Linux witout grief. Two and a half years old, my thinkpad has yet to develop the creaks and flimsinesses other laptops do. In fact, the main problem with my thinkpad is that I've used it so much that the lettering on the keyboard is wearing off...
Katie
I've always used Dell equipment, because of the convenience of ordering and the price.
YummyPad
Microwave.
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Like almost everyone else here, I'd vote for the Thinkpad. It's ugly, boxy, boring as hell, but utterly solid and dependable. I've had mine for nearly three years and have never had anything go wrong. I've never even had a system crash, although that's to Windows 2000's credit, not IBM's. I use it primarily as my desktop machine, with an external keyboard and mouse.
Brad
Wow, people actually use the Windows key?
What's a Windows key?
Proud owner of several Model-M keyboards
Oh my god, people. Win+M. Win+R. Win+L. All used multiple times per day. That doesn't even mention the fun you can have when you install WinKey!
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Recently i've used it to bring up Explorer (winkey-E). With my new ThinkPad, it only took a day to stop doing that and use the QuickLaunch instead. No biggie.
YummyPad
The standard IBM keyboard customiser utility can map, say, the right ALT key as the Windows key.
Rhys Keepence
"Wow, people actually use the Windows key?"
Just me (Sir to you)
I need right ALT, for Virtual PC. You people are using Virtual PC, too, right? :-D
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
>>You people are using Virtual PC, too, right?<<
Tim Lara
We support hundreds of laptops. Dell's tend to fail after 18 months, as was said earlier here. If you want to be on a rapid replace cycle, or love to upgrade, perhaps that works for you. The whole C-series of Dell laptops were so buggy the Dell reps eventually told us to stop buying them and just wait for D. At least he was honest. In the end, we prefer the low lifecycle cost of the superior IBM construction/quality. One user still keeps a 701 with a 486 processer around as a terminal just because it has always worked without a failure (and the keyboard's so well engineered).
Drake
I recently purchased a T41...it shipped with a bad cd-rom drive and the replacement was at my door step in less than 24 hours. I work in the IT dept and we are always ordering Dell and Gateway laptops..after showing off my IBM I think that will change..the IBM is lighter and feels a lot more rugged than either the Gateway or the Dell..as for the windows key. I have mapped it to the left-Alt key using the keyboard configuration tool..also of note if you're going to use Linux is all hardware was recognized in Linux except for the wireless card...and that was fixed with a driver download...I definitely would recommend spending the extra money and going with the IBM...
Cameron
"There are also a few utilities available to map the Thinkpad Fn key to the windows key."
Mark Rideout
I bought an ThinkPad 560 in 1997 and it's still going. I had to replace the hard drive (Toshiba, a great drive) and I use it for chat only now.
Perry Doell
I've been using my T41 since this December and so far I'm very impressed. It's replacing a Dell, so I have some experience with both. I feel that the IBM is the more durable of the two. The screen seems nice and rigid and the rest of the construction is very solid. I've called IBM a couple times with problems and they've been extremely helpful every time. I can echo what someone said earlier about having parts delivered in less than 24 hours. As an added bonus, the guy didn't talk to me like I was only 3 years old about the problem. He was very courteous and seemed to place an actual value in my assessment. As far as lack of a windows key, it doesn't bother me because I run Linux the majority of the time. In fact I map Ctrl to Caps Lock so even the placement of control doesn't bother me. I say go with the IBM.
Cody
Must be a bunch of paid IBM staffers posting here :-)
securityman
started with a Thinkpad 600, moved to a T21, just got my T41p a few weeks ago. Great laptops, excellent service. My only concern is that the T41p does not seem to be built as solidly as my T21, but that's just me.
Andy
Hi,
Beastmaster
hi, i'm thinking about buying an IBM T-series, i'm looking at the differences between T40 and T41. what are the differences between T40 and T41? and is T41 really worth the money?? thank you!!
larry
I had IBM ThinkPad T21 for over 3 years; it followed me around the world and remained faithful to this day. Now I have bought the IBM T41 and im very happy with though I feel the built quality was better much especially the keyboard under IBM ThinkPad T21.
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