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Hi Joel,

I wondered if you could do an article about content management one day, comparing different systems and different approaches (and probably plugging your own :P).

I don't know a lot about CMS, having tried yours for my own webpage, and am currently evaluating mmbase (open source, Java, based on object-clouds), but our customers (we do Java projects for companies - internal software, mostly web-based) ask for CMS a lot.

So in order to give them some decent advice, I'm looking for articles comparing different approaches, arguments for and against specific CMS's, and tips on in which situations to use which system.

Any helpful tips and pointers are appreciated.

M. de Mare
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

Use CityDesk.


Obviously, I'm too biased to be useful to you here.

Joel Spolsky
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

Join/read the archives for the cms-list,

Michael Josephson
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

David Walker ( frequently talks about CMS software in his columns. Frequently he is dismissive of large expensive products like Vignette, but you may recall he had a few nice things to say about CityDesk ( Walker's a pretty pragmatic chap and I recommend his commentary.

Also, I've stumbled across the CMSWatch ( web site on several occassions, but I've never really looked into it with any great detail. It may have some content that's of use to you.

Walter Rumsby
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

Thanks for the replies! I've heard a lot about Vignette Storyserver - a couple of big clients are considering using it, but I know nothing about it except that it's insanely expensive and that you need their consultants to install and administer it. I figured it must also have something going for it, and I wondered what. Their website, of course, is utterly meaningless.

And Joel, frankly I'd like to use CityDesk - I hate web-interfaces (I'm still waiting for someone to write a slick gui for popular websites like e.g. slashdot), but I'm not going to convince anyone by saying that I like it and that I don't know a lot about the alternatives. I need arguments.

My problem is that I've never seriously used CMS's, and neither have my colleagues, so I don't know what they are supposed to do anyway except be a thin layer on a database. However, the cms mailinglist will probably makes this a lot clearer. Thanks for the tip.

M. de Mare
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

Joel-- could you elaborate a bit on future plans for CityDesk? How might CityDesk evolve to serve as more of an enterprise solution?


Dusty Bottoms
Wednesday, May 8, 2002

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