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Bringing in Ed Yourdon

Joel is right about one thing: a product company wouldn't bring in Ed Yourdon to talk about structured.

When I was in charge of all the product development for ComShare, a job I had for many years, I didn't bring in Ed Yourdon. I brought in Larry Constantine.

Actually we had had Ed Yourdon and his then company, Mandate Systems, in some years before. Our VP of Finance, Dick Eidswick was an alumnus of Mandate as I recall.

My background is strongly product-oriented, and while I do agree that each "world" has a different focus, I can truly say that I wish I had known then what I know now about XP and agile processes.

Rock on, Joel ...

Ron Jeffries
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

Gads,  I cannot imagine any reason to bring in Yourdon. 

Y'know that thread, how to spot a bad company?  One that seeks salvation from outside gurus.  That would be a place that sucks.

A slight spin off that one, is a company that hires based on skill set specifics rather than he ability to adapt and learn.  But, now I digress...

Nat Ersoz
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

You are -the- Ron Jeffries?

Man, the Internet is cool.

I used your book for a presentation on XP.

(Look for "CS 642"; it's the 2nd and 3rd like)


Matt Heusser
Tuesday, May 7, 2002

"Y'know that thread, how to spot a bad company? One that seeks salvation from outside gurus. That would be a place that sucks."

So I take it you don't believe in going to the doctor when you're sick?

Tuesday, May 7, 2002

>You are -the- Ron Jeffries?
>Man, the Internet is cool.

The porn actor?

Wednesday, May 8, 2002

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