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Good outliner for Windows?


I've used ActionOutline and TreePad, but the former doesn't allow sorting of entries in the outline + doesn't support bullets in notes, and the latter didn't work on my PC (TreePad Plus 4.8: When creating a new file, no New Node item is show as explained in the manual, and when adding it by hand, I get a "Cannot focus a disabled or invisible window".)

Anyhow... what's your favorite outliner?


Frederic Faure
Tuesday, April 2, 2002

I use MS Word.

Simon Lucy
Tuesday, April 2, 2002

You might look at MyInfo NextGen:

Their website is mostly down for some sort of maintenance, but that page is working.  It's the release candidate of a completely new version of their software.  I don't think there's a help file yet, but it's pretty intuitive.  I've used the older version for several years and had no problems with it.

Chris Dunford
Tuesday, April 2, 2002

I haven't used it enough to know if it supports what you're looking for, but Radio Userland comes with an outliner worth looking into.

Patrick Lioi
Tuesday, April 2, 2002

Thx everyone. I don't like MS Word (too slow to load, too many features for what I need) or Radio (a total mess; it tries to do too many things). I liked MyInfo, but it doesn't support much formatting for notes (eg. H1/H2, bullets, tables, etc.)

Thx again

Frederic Faure
Wednesday, April 3, 2002

Correction: While the stable version of Mylenix doesn't support bullets, the RC version does. Too bad formatting is still a bit primitive, but it's a good alternative to ActionOutline... which is very affordable.

Why, oh why, doesn't Lotus Organizer include a good outliner + project manager???? I sure wish I could keep all infos in one app.


Frederic Faure
Wednesday, April 3, 2002

You could try Bonsai, from Natara (

Bonsai is mainly known as a Palm OS app, but it comes with a conduit and a Windows desktop application that is really pretty nice in its own right. I just wish they'd make a Mac version.

Mark Allerton
Wednesday, April 3, 2002

Hi -

I use NoteMap by CaseSoft (  It's been on my machine for only a couple months, but so far I'm very happy with it.

Bob Perlman
Thursday, April 4, 2002

You might find this interesting:

Also, the earlier thread about favorite software.

Mark W
Thursday, April 4, 2002

I would recommend buying a Mac and getting the free Omni Outliner that comes with the machine. I am telling  you as a massive outliner fan... there is no match for the crisp and easy to use feel of Omni. However, if I was forced to use Windows I would keep my eye on Shadow Plan... the palm version they have is very good - the desktop may catch up some day.

Greg McCarvell
Wednesday, August 6, 2003

I'm waiting for NoteTaker ( to come out for Windows (they told me when - they may have said Fall 2004).  I use it on Macintosh at home and love it - much better than OnmiOutliner. 

I've also heard about NoteBook for Mac (Circus Ponies), but at a glance I like NoteTaker better.

I used to use MORE on a Mac; it was great.  It seems Now Up-To-Date might have had some outlining - too long ago to remember.

At work I use NoteMap on Windows XP Pro, but it is clunky compared to NoteTaker.

Still, none of these come close to what I think is a hole in the market.  I imagine an information handler that could be used through all phases of a project, from conception to research, presentation, design, implementation, and finally maintenance.  Of course it would have to handle URLs, graphics, spread sheets, and maybe databases. 

XML would probably be used - in fact, I think that is how NoteTaker stores its data.  You can export a NoteTaker file to the web, and opening / closing sections of the outline works there!

Ideally it would work (to some extent) on PalmOS palmtops, too.

David C. Menges
Friday, April 30, 2004

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