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Alternatives to DigiBuy?

I noticed that fog creek uses to power its web store for CityDesk and fogBUGZ.

Heading over to their site I see they charge 13.5% to cover the cost of the transaction.

Surely there must be a cheaper alternative to turnkey ecommerce?

Even setting up some server-side magic to link to/from PayPal would be cheaper, no?

Anyone have any other leads?

Friday, November 30, 2001

We'd be happy to work with FogCreek in having PayPal be used for collecting online payments. I think PayPal would work for them and txn fees are quite a bit lower (2.2%). However, they may be getting some sort ov value-added services from Digibuy that we, as a pure online payment processor, do not provide. But with a simple link like this: I would think it quite possible. Further information about the interface available at:


Patrick Breitenbach
Friday, November 30, 2001

Yeah, paypal is excellent, I just noticed on their site that they have an API now to set things up automatically when someone pays, and interestingly enough it uses a normal cgi POST instead of XML (which makes it super good for me, and makes it simple in general). The only problem they have that digibuy might not is that with their web accept links (as the person above just showed) only work for people who are either a) paypal members or b) USA citizens. This makes it annoying to explain to people "if you're international, need to go sign up for paypal first.." etc, and it's pretty much a showstopper. I use paypal on my site right now and while 90% of my revenue goes through it, I won't to be able to ditch my (annoying) secondary billing place until they fix that.

Sunday, December 2, 2001

I don't know much about paypal, but here's an idea: Can you override their registration and login pages? I mean, for example, sells to members: what if your site has a registration process, which behind the scenes does some munging with paypal? So the users never see paypal.... Just a thought.

Mike Swieton
Tuesday, December 4, 2001

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