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not expensive or free save-for-the-web tool?

I am looking for a tool that can minimize gif-files for the web, something like the tool in Photoshop and that is small anough to hook into the external tools menu of CityDesk. Any ideas? Thanks.

Ruud van Soest
Sunday, October 10, 2004

Photoshop Elements has all the Photoshop tools most people need and costs a lot less than Photoshop ($100). 

As far as freeware, I know of Gimp and InfranView.  There are others here:

For post or batch processing there is ImageMagic which runs as a shell.

David Burch
Monday, October 11, 2004

I did not remember the name of one of the products correctly: it is  IrfanView.

David Burch
Monday, October 11, 2004

I'll second IrfanView - handles batch jobs with excellence.

Monday, October 11, 2004

Thanks for the reactions. Since I use the tool for preparing images for mobiles, it has to compress the size of the files as much as possible. I just did a test with a 560 kb file, resized to 120 max width. Pages must be < 10 kb in gif-format, we aim at images of < 5 kb, preferably even +/- 3 kb. 

1. Photoshop: 3 kb
2. Elements: 4 kb
3. IrfanView: 9 kb
4. Gimp: only version 1.5 available, 2.x preferably on => NT
5. Ulead (I remembered it): download time > 2,5 hours.

We aim at schools so we try to make things as cheap as possible. For now, Elements is the winner, $99,-  I will look further.


Ruud van Soest
Monday, October 11, 2004


If you are able to get educational pricing, Elements should be even cheaper than that--I think $50-60.

David Burch
Monday, October 11, 2004

I use PhotoShop Elements and it's worth every cent to me. The features I use most are enhancing, cropping, resizing, dropshadowing, and saving "optimized." That's only about 2% of the features. The rest is over my head.

It's great for the web but I also enhance (usually with just one click) and crop pictures before I print them. My own pictures have never looked better.

I use "Easy Thumbnails" from too. They have some other free image software.

Monday, October 11, 2004

Easy Thumbnail does a good job, compressing the 560 Kb file to a 120x90 jpg-thumbnail of 3 kb. By comparison though, both Adobe apps make it 1 kb. Also Easy doesn't support gif compression because of the Unisys licence policy (gif is a Unisys patent). Most other tools I tested don't support gif anymore since Unisys askes a fee for gif.

Ruud van Soest
Tuesday, October 12, 2004

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