So what's the status
I'm evaluating CD for use on a bunch of my sites. I like the idea of a desktop solution rather than installing stuff on the server. I've tried many server based CMS solutions. I've tossed out a lot of them for different reasons and I'd like to move to a desktop solution. So I installed CD messed around with the templates and generally liked what I saw. However, I'm not likely to play with everything that I might need over the years in a few weeks. That's where I look for direction and active development on the application. I also don't want to start using yet another product that has no future.
Thanks for the comments... Rest assured we're hard at work making our software the best it can be!
Michael H. Pryor
Correction: There has not been any news from Fog Creek since December 24, 2003. The rest of the “news” is from users of CityDesk.
Also, if it's true that they would rather do one release a year because more new stuff can be added and they believe in adding only the functionality that can be put in and checked before the release date and they believe in adding functionality only when the bugs from the last addition have been worked out, then isn't there a list of all the new functionality that has been added in the last 12 months that is fully functioning and checked? I understand not wanting to release a list of planned features because those might not make it in, but there must be something new that's been added in 12 months that is going to make it in the release.
Thanks for the clarification. As you know, our policy is not to discuss future release dates or future features. We want our customers to be happy with the software they have purchased, not a promise from us for features which may exist in the future. Download CityDesk, try it out... If it fits your needs then we'd love to have you as a customer. I understand your comments, and I'm glad you shared them. Right now we're hard at work building our software for the future and rest assured that we're going to be around for a long time.
Michael H. Pryor
”…software for the future…” Wow! And I thought that getting rid of some of the already known bugs was aiming a bit high. Now we just have to wait for the future.
So for FogBugz I saw a policy on the site where it says if there's a bug, the user actually talks to a developer and often times receives a patch that day. However, what I'm hearing is the there are known bugs in CityDesk and users never receive a patch and there is no list of known issues. Is this correct?
No, that is not true. We have an internal database where we keep track of bugs in CityDesk. We also receive crash reports automatically from the field if CityDesk crashes. I'm not sure what you're talking about in regards to patches for FogBugz, but we use the same system for FogBugz that we use for CityDesk. When problems come up we offer workarounds here in the discussion forum.
Michael H. Pryor
First of all most of the griping on this board comes from a few users. Perhaps half dozen. While many of the issues they're griping about are real CityDesk is an immensely useful product in it's current state. The CityDesk is dead talk arises from the same small number of people. Fog Creek has consistently stated that CityDesk is under active development and that a new version is coming.
Thanks Ken, point taken. I bet there's a fair number of users who are happy and never come here to comment on things.
According to this Joel *never* rewrites: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
Uh no.. He says never toss your code base and start over, that's different.
Given the realities of software development, you can hardly blame FC for remaining somewhat mum on the status of CD development. I would give these guys a break. CD is a good product, and I am sure that the next version will come when it is ready.
Robert Pawlak ( www.chessassistance.com )
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