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[baseball]Ownership *DOES* make all the difference

Isn't that interesting, the Red Sox just swung a trade with the D-Backs to land Curt Schilling.  All Curt has to do is approve the trade.  This is a guy the Yankees wanted!

The brand new owners built a team that was stastically better than even the 27 Yankees.

The brand new owners built a team that was better than the Yankees, and if it weren't for some bad luck (Damon getting injured and missing the 1st 2 games, Grady's brain fart, etc) -- the Sox win the ALCS, but take the Yankees to the brink anyway.

The brand new onwers swung the deals for Sauerback and Williamson at the trading deadline last year .. players the Yankees wanted.

The brand new onwers currently have a 72 hr window with which to work out a deal with Schilling.  Another player the Yankees wanted.

Keep believing in Mystique and Aura, guys! :)  Guess what?  It all starts at the top.  These aren't your father's Red Sox.

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Monday, November 24, 2003

yeah, but the best team in the world can't compete with the supernatural. don't forget that the red sox are cursed.

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Monday, November 24, 2003

So, in summary: Wait Till Next Year, because This Time It's Different.

Mike Schiraldi
Tuesday, November 25, 2003

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don't forget that the red sox are cursed
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I'll tell that to my friend Bigfoot when we are riding on his unicorn

Schilling_Looking_Mighty_Good_In_Red_Sox
Tuesday, November 25, 2003

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So, in summary: Wait Till Next Year, because This Time It's Different.
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I guess you are a Florida Marlins fan because ... shhhh, here's a secret ... the Yankees DID NOT win. 

You may want to focus on your failure of a season (direct quote from the overrated Derek Jeter).  This year is now.  If I'm going to talk about baseball it is what is happening CURRENTLY with eyes toward the future.

But hey, Yankee fans really aren't the smartest.  So, what are you going to do.  Here, I'll keep it to a level you can understand:

Jeter is Kewl!!

Soriano is Neat!!!

Giambi is on juice.  Oops, I mean he is super!!

Schilling_Looking_Mighty_Good_In_Red_Sox
Tuesday, November 25, 2003

The Red Sux are cursed.  It's a well known fact that if people believe that bad things will happen to them, somehow they do.  This usually happens more to  superstitious people, and ballplayers are very superstitious.  So yes, they are cursed.

GML
Wednesday, November 26, 2003

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The Red Sux are cursed.  It's a well known fact that if people believe that bad things will happen to them, somehow they do.  This usually happens more to  superstitious people, and ballplayers are very superstitious.  So yes, they are cursed.
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I'll be sure to tell that to my alien friends as we cruise around the galaxy on our UFO.

Oh, btw, Zaltor from the Planet X-9 says hi!

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Thursday, November 27, 2003

You're making fun of the "it's a self fulfilling prophecy guy" by making telling him he's silly for being supestitious?

www.MarkTAW.com
Thursday, November 27, 2003

It's as simple as this.  Do you really think that when it was ... I don't know ... the bottom of the 10th of the ALCS and the Red Sox batter was up, this conversation went through his head?:

Ok, it's a 1-1 count.  He just threw me an inside fastball for a strike.  I've faced this guy before, I think he might come up and in ... umm ... oh wait.  The curse! The cu-

STRIKE TWO!!! (umpire yells)

Ahh shoot.  That darn curse got in the way.  Golly, me ane my superstitions.

BWAHAHAHA.

I don't think that the current Red Sox batter (when he needs to focus on his current at bat) or the current Red Sox pitcher (when he needs to focus on getting someone out) is thinking about anything but accomplishing what he needs to do at that time.

Now, who seems more reaonable.  Me, him, or Zaltor from planet X-9

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Friday, November 28, 2003

Just to add something else.  I was at the ALCS.  The curse or thoughts of the curse did not enter my mind.  The talk of a curse is perpertuated for the "casual" fan.  The "dummy" fan.

No.  What was entering through my mind was the actual game being played.

Thoughts like:

"Hmm.  He's coming out to start the 8th.  Ok.  He must be taking him out at the first sign of trouble".

"Hmm. An 0-2 pitch to Jeter that he lines for a double.  Hmm.  Is that Grady calling for a meatball on 0-2?  Who calls these pitches"

"Hmm. Bernie just got a hit.  Ok Grady time to take him out.  Thank god we got Timlin warming up.  He's given up 1 hit all playoffs".

"Wait he's not taking him out!  Noooooooooooooo!"

Once it gets tied:

"Wow.  Too Little Too Late" stikes again."  (his nickname amongst sox fans because of his habit for pulling starters 2 batters too late).

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Focused on the game.  Not on any curse or superstition.  Yankee fans want to believe that stuff.  Just like they want to believe in mystique an aura.

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Let me put it another way.  The Anaheim Angels were a "cursed" team.  Donnie Moore (86) shot himself after not making the world series.  Again.  There was plenty of talk regarding "curses" when it came to this team.  They never, ever made a world series.

Well, that was until 2002 when the team steamrolled the Yankees and won the world Series.  What happened to superstitions then?

Or tell me about the Buccaneers (NFL).  The Tampa Bay Yucks they have been called.  This is a team famous for it's ineptitude.  Aren't they the current NFL champions?  What happened to superstitions then?

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The original point I'm trying to make is that the Red Sox were owned by the racist, good ol boy, Yawkeys until the recent owners bought this team and became official in spring training of 2002.  The real "curse" was the Yawkeys.  They (or their trust) don't own this team anymore.  You can't lump the failures of the Yawkeys with the new ownership.

The worm has turned.

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Friday, November 28, 2003

Like I said, (most) Yankee fans can't be objective.  I'm not the only one that sees things the way I do:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=olney_buster&id=1673358

Here's a tidbit:

Throughout the Yankees' dynasty of 1996-2001, they viewed the Red Sox and Baltimore Orioles as sleeping giants, dangerous franchises that were operated incompetently. But now the Red Sox are being run effectively, efficiently, and they are starting to win some of the battles the Yankees always won in past years. They'll have their next chance on the field in the 2004 season.

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Friday, November 28, 2003

Wow. You *really* **really** ***really*** want to make your point.

www.MarkTAW.com
Saturday, November 29, 2003

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Wow. You *really* **really** ***really*** want to make your point.
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Wow. You (or anyone responding) *really* **really** ***really*** can't admit that I am right.

So, I'll take your comment as saying my analysis of the current ownership situation is correct.  Thanks!

It sure was fun chatting with him on the internet.  What a great guy!  Can't wait to see him smoke some Yankee hitters this summer!  Woohoo!

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Monday, December 01, 2003

Wow. Think about this. I really don't care. I only follow baseball in the post-season, and only when NY is involved, which is most of the time. I have no clue what management is doing right now, and I don't care.

You're looking to pick a fight with a bunch of people who don't care what you have to say, so you have to come up with elaborate & twisted ways or refuting, basically nothing.

Anyway, it was nice chatting with you, but last time I checked, it was free to cross the Brooklyn Bridge. Go troll under the Taxypayer's Bridge.

www.MarkTAW.com
Monday, December 01, 2003

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Wow. Think about this. I really don't care
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But, you responded.  Not once.  Not twice.  But three times.  And it was the third one that you had to *tell* me that you don't care.

If you *really* don't care, you would have never responded in the first place.

Point Me!

1-0!

Schilling_Looks_Good_In_Red_Sox
Monday, December 01, 2003

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