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TROLL!

In many threads here people throw this word around while others disagree with them.

I wonder whether this behaviour relates to any particular trait of a person. Age? Personality?

<Troll>
In this respect this is not different than slashdot!
<\Troll>

Rick Tang
Thursday, July 08, 2004

I am a 56 year old technology director and I enjoy trolling. But my focues has changed. Namecallign is out, subtlety is in. Over the years I have honed it to a fine craft and can now play devil's advocate on the most absurd topics until my point of view is picked up and quoted by academic studies and/or major news sources.

One of my greatest triumphs was trolling the media that outsourcing your core competancy can save you big money and benefit the shareholders. They snapped up that lure and are still swallowing it despite the entire notion's pure lunacy.

Sackbut Mohadias
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Wow, a troll within a troll about trolling.

That's got to be like, a record.

muppet from madebymonkeys.net
Thursday, July 08, 2004

What exactly does it mean when someone calls someone else a troll?  It's been getting used a ton around here lately, but it's not something I've seen before this week.

Joe
Thursday, July 08, 2004

I hate feeding trolls, but here goes:

Google for "troll definition"

MilesArcher
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Joe-

You've been on the internet for what, about a week now?

Joel on Trolling
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Well, this link kind of explains what a troll is. But it uses some foul language to do so. But if you don't want to read her essay, think of AM talk radio.

http://tweety.bowlofmice.com/tweety/troll.html

Her essays are more aimed at everquest.

Peter
Thursday, July 08, 2004

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html points to the Jargon File's entry for Troll. It includes a bit of history of the term and some alternate usages.

RocketJeff
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Why so many trolls over there and so few hobbits and elfs? Man, I can not get it...

Ross Sampere
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Personally, I find trolling acceptable only in larger lakes where you can drag the bait accross rises and valleys in the lakebed and around natural obstacles.  Very productive for spring walleye pike.

<sigh/>
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Thanks for the links :)

Joel on Trolling -- sorry if I don't keep up with the lingua du jour of online posting forums, sheesh...

Joe
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Naaa, you gotta bucktail if you want to get the big ones ~ and have any fun at it.

Mr. E Lurker
Thursday, July 08, 2004

All the hobbits, elves (or elfs), orcs, etc. are here in NZ

boromir
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Joe

Lingua du jor?

are you kidding?

it's been an established term for over 10 years.

muppet from forums.madebymonkeys.net
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Yup.  It's from the early days of usenet.

And got a real workout when AOL granted their users access to the Internet.  {Sigh}  It was like shooting fish in a barrel.  Wasn't even fun after a while.

Chip H.

chiph
Thursday, July 08, 2004

"Can't we all just get along?!"

For the children.

Rodney
Thursday, July 08, 2004

The word "troll" is often thrown around to try to marginalize and invalidate someone else's opinions without actually having to address them. Rather than proving someone wrong, you just call them a troll and brush them off.

Real trolling--good trolling--can be extremely funny (if you have a sick sense of humor, that is).

The best, funniest, and most organized trolls I've ever encountered on the Web were in the technology community, namely Slashdot. Take a look at some of their really funny stuff:

http://www.trollaxor.com
http://www.gnaa.us
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721

Right behind /. and the technology community was, of all things, the online mixed martial arts community. The world of no-holds-bared (NHB) ultimate fighting and, conversely, of little men with big egos challenging each other to fights from behind their keyboard seems to attract trolls like nothing else. The owners and operators of every single MMA website are mocked, ridiculed, and impersonated, often with very good reason:

http://www.lukebeston.net (forum:
http://forum.onecenter.com/thingvolds )
http://www.fightsport.com
http://www.geocities.com/antisherdog/ (forum:
http://p078.ezboard.com/bantisherdogsplace )

Steve Cohreeno
Thursday, July 08, 2004

muppet - that doesn't mean that established terms can't go in and out of style...JOS is the only forum I read/post to, and from the time I first popped up here a couple months ago until the last week or two, "troll" hasn't been that widely used...

are you people always this flame-happy?  take a prozac and let your trigger finger relax once in a while ;-)

Joe
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Steve -

yes, "troll" can be used to dismiss somebody with a valid point, but much more often it's used when someone is CLEARLY only posting a message for the purpose of stirring up heated, yet useless or redundant, discussion.  Especially when they're setting up an obviously flawed straw man simply because they get some kind of chubby from instigating long threads.

muppet from forums.madebymonkeys.net
Thursday, July 08, 2004

Attempting to answer the OP's question, I looked up "Troll Statisical Analysis" in Google and found:

====
1. TROLL - An array language for continuous simulation, econometric modelling or statistical analysis.

["TROLL Reference Manual", D0062, Info Proc Services, MIT (1973-76)].

2. troll - An electronic mail message, Usenet posting or other (electronic) communication which is intentionally incorrect, but not overtly controversial (compare flame bait), or the act of sending such a message. Trolling aims to elicit an emotional reaction from those with a hair-trigger on the reply key. A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds.
====

So, in theory, one could use a TROLL to learn more about the behaviour of trolls.

www.MarkTAW.com
Friday, July 09, 2004

"A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds."

What kind of wanker cares that much about a post? The "hair trigger" guys are just too easy.

Mr. E Lurker
Friday, July 09, 2004

I've never understood the term Trolling. Looks like fun - I think I will give it a go!

Gary van der Merwe
Friday, July 09, 2004

Don't forget to check out http://trolltalk.net/ .

Phil Collins
Sunday, August 29, 2004

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