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My company is looking to hire another C#/ASP.NET programmer.  Norfolk, VA.  No job posting yet, but we're in the health care industry, company of about 3000 people.  Email me for more information.

nathan
Friday, July 02, 2004

The health care industry as a whole has been throwing programmers out windows for the past two years.

No thanks.

muppet from madebymonkeys.net
Friday, July 02, 2004

Does somebody have a Bot that scans this and every other forum based in the states about software looking for any posts relating to job vacancies and people asking for career advice and then posts a

All software jobs in the U.S. are being oursourced to the third world, even though the developers there lack our yankee knowhow and cunning, you had better learn the phrase "do you want fries with that?". Oh woe is me, woe, woe, woe, I tell you. And I never get invited to any good parties. Woe woe woe woe woe. Exit stage left wailing and gnashing teeth..

message?

Harvey Pengwyn
Friday, July 02, 2004

I'm missing the part where I said ANYTHING that you mentioned.  I didn't even touch on any of those topics.

Holy projection, batman.

muppet from madebymonkeys.net
Friday, July 02, 2004

MadebyMonkeys is, well, wrong.

Health care is one of the only areas of IT that is growing.

Bioinformatics. Data Warehousing.  Data Mining.

Clinical Outcomes.  Medical Measures.  HIPPA.

HEDIS.  NCQA.


Dude.    All of these "extra government regulation and reporting" type things require databases, analysis, reporting, queries, file transfers, security, encryption, etc.

If I had a friend graduating with a CS degree, I would strongly recommend Health Care - Instruments, Equipment, Providers, and insurance.

Warning:  I work for a managed care company, so my opinion may be suspect.  But the opportunity here (as I see it) is incredible ...

Matt H.
Friday, July 02, 2004

OK, maybe it's a local phenomenon, but here in CT, health insurance companies have been laying off IT folks like there's no tomorrow.

Cigna laid off close to (over?) a thousand in the past 2 years.

Aetna just laid off 50 IT workers in hartford (and 50 elsewhere) with more layoffs planned.

muppet from madebymonkeys.net
Friday, July 02, 2004

Cigna totally botched their IT system upgrade. They went from an old-school (but working) mainframe app to a new-school web application which was poorly designed and even more poorly implemented. They lost *tons* of customers and several major clients due to claims payment inaccuracies.

Their IT staff did this to themselves.

Captain McFly
Friday, July 02, 2004

McFly, it wasn't the IT staff so much as the IT management.  And it was much more than the migration.  The "Transformation" initiative tried to rebuild the entire company in a new image on a VERY aggressive timeline.

Even simple things like the sales lead tracking software and underwriting applications were horrendously implemented, poorly supported, and generally swept under the rug where upper management was concerned.  The left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing, and all of the technical folks with a brain in their heads were at the mercy of the proclamations of management.

There was a lot of talent at Cigna, but it simply was ignored by managers who thought they knew better than the specialists they hired for the purpose, how to design a system.

Then there was the whole outsourcing to India thing in the middle of several key projects...

muppet from madebymonkeys.net
Friday, July 02, 2004

Good reply and synopsis of the problems. I don't know because I wasn't there but I do have friends that were in the machinery which were let go. They had not-so-good stories to tell.

Didn't they also get a new CIO because of this?

Captain McFly
Friday, July 02, 2004

I was one of the guys in the machinery.  :)

I'm fairly certain that Andrea is still on as CIO, but honestly, I don't follow Cigna politics much these days.  I'm grateful to have escaped them!

It was not a pretty place to work the last year I was there, and from what I understand, it's only VERY slowly improving now that layoffs have wound down.

muppet from madebymonkeys.net
Friday, July 02, 2004

Keep in mind, Health Insurance Industry != Healthcare Industry.  Although they are obviously related, Cigna and Aetna are still *insurance* companies.  Hospitals don't (often) go out of business, since their services are fundamentally required for survival, and a given hospital can only service so many patients.  But insurance companies and TPA's do go belly up...if one goes out of business, the competitors pick up the slack, and life goes on.

And of course, just because you work in a vertical market that is doing well overall, doesn't mean that your particular company and its management know their heads from their rears ;-)

Joe
Friday, July 02, 2004

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