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Why 'http://WWP" and not "http://www"?

I came across a site where the URL is

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/


Why is there 'http://WWP" and not "http://www" in the URL?

Neumonic
Monday, June 28, 2004

Because the www has no bearing on the protocol you use to get to the site. Same reason you can go to slashdot.org instead of www.slashdot.org. The http:// is all that matters, the rest is just name resolution.

As for non-technically why, I haven't a clue. I'm sure it means something to them.

CF
Monday, June 28, 2004

The 'WWW' is just a subdomain like any other. It's a convention, no more.

Example:
www.myshop.com  //my company's web server
mail.myshop.com    //our mail server

www-dev.myshop.com  //my sandbox
jp.myshop.com            //our japanese web page.

It's the magic of DNS.

Sassy
Monday, June 28, 2004

Excitement!

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a
Monday, June 28, 2004


A typo, maybe ? ;-)

Ricardo Antunes da Costa
Monday, June 28, 2004

You haven't used unix, have you?

Thanks Microsoft
Monday, June 28, 2004

The www is something of an annoying convention is all.  For years the netscape home page was much more sensible at http://home.netscape.com. 

Clay Dowling
Monday, June 28, 2004

It looks as though they are trying to start a new brand with wwp, see the http://wwp.uk.com/ site.

Mike
Monday, June 28, 2004

Nice find, Mike.

But what do they actually do?

Janonymous
Monday, June 28, 2004

That's a good question. They have a list of wwp sites at http://wwp.uk.com/portals-uk.htm so maybe they charge organisations to appear in the list. That's just a guess as there seems to be no way to sign up for their services, even if someone was interested.

Looks like the "P" stands for portal so maybe wwp stands for World Wide Portal.

It is all very peculiar. It doesn't look like a well thought out idea to me at all.

Mike
Monday, June 28, 2004

Yeah, and they say they review the sites as well.
What, you mean no wwp.pr0n.com? That's a _huge_ mistake for an internet bussiness. :-D

Janonymous
Monday, June 28, 2004

I really wished people had used "web.foo.com" instead of "www.foo.com". The former is much easier to read aloud since it's an actual word; the latter often gets shortened to "dub dub dub dot ...", which is confusing for newbies.

Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Monday, June 28, 2004

Why prefix the domain name with anything at all?

Entering foo.com into the browser address box (at least Internet Explorer) puts the http:// on the front and then goes to the foo.com web site. In this case, the www is optional and it seems to be optional on the other domains that I tried as well, e.g. fogcreek.com, ibm.com, microsoft.com etc.

Mike
Monday, June 28, 2004

It's not option. It just so happens that most system admins will set it up so that both foo.com and www.foo.com work (at least, it's generally true for larger sites, but not always true for smaller sites).

Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Monday, June 28, 2004

That is what I was trying to say in a roundabout sort of way. If web sites are generally set up that way then the folks at foo.com can just say "our web address is foo.com" and they don't have to struggle with the "dub dub dub dot ...".

Mike
Tuesday, June 29, 2004

> I really wished people had used "web.foo.com" instead of "www.foo.com".
and
> Why prefix the domain name with anything at all?

On most browsers, to go to a website, say google, you could type google in the address bar, and then press CTRL+Enter which will append the http://www. & .com to the address. Considering that it's not difficult for the admin to configure a www.foo.com as well as foo.com to point to the same area, I'd be annoyed at them not to do so.

SC
Tuesday, June 29, 2004

I can remember when the site mmm.beer.com first came out and having a mental image of marketing people all over the world hitting themselves on the head saying "You mean is doesn't *HAVE* to start with www?"

DL
Tuesday, June 29, 2004

Of course it doesn't have to start with www but the unwashed masses would be totally confused if www didn't work. As soon as they see www in a URL they know what it is. Try it on your next door neighbor.

Ken
Tuesday, June 29, 2004

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