Work relationship turned sour, I MEAN REAL SOUR!
Someone please give me some advice here. I have two work colleagues that work in my department, they worked along with each other very well for the past 3 years (both are Jewish).
When did this forum turn into a group therapy session?
Boss should give them both a written warning to tell them that their behaviour will not be tolerated in the work place.
I don't blame Alex, with all the chaos happening in the workplace these days, it's good to turn to a forum that discuss's I.T. and real human issues.
Lock them in a room together. The winner keeps his job, or alternatively they can both keep their jobs if they agree not to cause aggro at the workplace.
Is it my imagination, or is conversion to Islam becoming the latest trend?. The same deal at my workplace, this female employee followed the same route, she even decided to wear the scarf and changed her name from Lisa to Laila (out of her own free will, she was not even getting married to any muslim guy to justify it).
Karl the Curious
LOL, so true, they change their names to the closest sounding Islamic equivalent..
Yeah like David Hicks.
I would always find it so strange that a Jew would become a Muslim, until it actually did happen to a guy I know. About this time a year ago, he went from his orthodoxy into Islam with a passion.
Converts are always the worst. And that goes for converts to anything including those who give up smoking...
Detroit the Titletown
Ummm Paul of Tarsus...
"I'd give them written warnings like someone else suggested and tell them to keep their religions out of the office. They want to preach, they can go preach but the company isn't paying them to do it. "
> When did this forum turn into a group therapy session?
Isn't it funny when people place religous significance on a name. Like Christians (although I am a 'born-again' Christian myself) who feel that their children should have a 'biblical' name, I have never understood that.
Well, I'm a Muslim convert myself, and I didn't change my name. Then again, the name Adam is universally known to Judaism, Christianity and Islam :).
Adam - THE ORIGINAL MAN :)
Would it be possible to get one (or both) to work from home ?
Steve Jones (UK)
Why does some people change religion? The new crowd has better God?
No accomodation at all should be made to their suddenly sour relationship. Management should call both into the conference room and clearly express, in writing as well, that their behaviour is inappropriate for the workplace, and that if they can't get along, they'll accept their resignations. Don't try laying down ground rules like "no talking about religion"--there's no reason to burden others with extra rules. Simply put it to them that mature people get along well in the workplace despite their differences; immature people don't work here anymore.
I'm not sure disciplining them formally would help too much. Also, if you discipline Joe and not the other guy then that will probably increase resentment even more.
Tell them to grow up.
Or, send them into a darkened closet together, each with half a brick. The person who comes out with a whole brick wins!
"Or, send them into a darkened closet together, each with half a brick. The person who comes out with a whole brick wins"
Do the Christian thing and stone the both of them.
"Why does some people change religion? The new crowd has better God? "
Hand them a loaded water pistol each and ask them to take it outside. If one of them says that it is silly, look them dead in the eyes, smile and say "yes".
a cynic writes...
Recommend they just sleep together and get it over with.
name withheld out of cowardice
It used to be, and I mean as recently as the late 60s, that religion and politics were viewed as off-limits for discussions at work.
silence is golden
>It used to be, and I mean as recently as the late 60s, that religion and >politics were viewed as off-limits for discussions at work.
Just wait until David walks in with a bomb on his back.
I read some article, and it could be wrong, that 80% of Israeli Jews do not believe in God. Is it somewhat true?
Build a wall separating them, but do it on Dave's lands.
Put your headphones on and ignore them. A portable MP3 player is a wonderful thing. I use mine all the time to ignore inane/non-work converations being held by my officemates.
Congratulations, you have discovered at least one dangerous bigot in your team. Its better that you know than they keep it quiet and let it colour their decisions and relationships.
How did David uncircumcise himself?
Both Jews and Muslims practice circumcision
Oh, I must be confused.
Joe is a serious disruption to the department. If management isn't taking it seriously now, perhaps they will when productivity tanks.
Should be working
Do you mean the Israeli army with their Apache helicopters and tanks?, and the bulldozers that demolishes homes?, and the right wing settlers that hate those palestinians who try to reclaim land that was stolen from them?.
No, I think he means those palestinians that send women and children to kill other women and children as their "protest".
As long as we're doing the whole religious flame thing, heres one for you:
Sorry A. Moyle, I guess I can't see a difference between the two sides in their violence
Islam says nothing of the sort of forcing non-Muslims to enter the fold, the Quran says "let there be no complusion in religion". If your going to quote the fanatics, then it is justifiable for them to quote what the likes of the southern Baptists,neo-conservatives and kkk.
On a whole, David is very mature and decent. As for Joe, I think it's too much of a pride issue. He uses the most vicious slurs against David, you know, the accusations of you traitor type of language. David generally keeps to himself, and is actually more pleasent to be with, I don't know if its the conversion or his general change of character that has made him more humble. Actually, when I come to think of it, he used to be exactly like Joe. In the past month his taken a different turn, and is really a refreshing person to work with, this starkly contrasts with Joe, also David is the only one in the office that has ceased the senseless gossip and backbiting that is quite rampant up in here.
As Jew who lived in the same house as a recent islam convert, I have to say that you should fire one of them. Pick the best one to keep or fire the one least likely to sue, but it's not likely that things will sort themselves out on their own.
Yes, the choice is obvious, kick Joes ass out to hell!!!
To hell with Joe
Steamrolla, I don't know if your familiar with some of the arab based sattelite channels, I have the most popular ones eg Al-Jazeera, Al-Arabiya, Mbc, Art..
Sadly, the American hostage in Saudi Arabia has just been executed. As I switch through all the arab channels, there is a wave of condemnation from the street level to the senior officials.
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