Bad Programming Team Assignments
I've recently been assigned to a new team. On the old team, I was the best developer, and the most assertive. On this new team, there is a guy who is equally matched with me, and who is as assertive as I am. The 'manager' of our team simply assigns work and disappears into his office, so any social problems are left for us to sort out.
Serious question: What will it cost you to give in and let the other guy win?
You are not a dog.
son of parnas
>> "Serious question: What will it cost you to give in and let the other guy win?"
Have you thought about slipping strychnine in his coffee?
I think it's high time that you start marking your territory before he does.
This is a crazy idea, I know; but try co-operation.
I don't have a link to it; but I guess now is a good time to bring up the infamous study showing the correlation between confidence and incompetence...
This is the *best* post on JOS *ever* !!!
A brief glimpse of what's wrong with this industry
Team first. Individuals second. Didn't you watch the Super Bowl?
teamwork, baby, teamwork
"Team first. Individuals second. Didn't you watch the Super Bowl?"
For some reason, this reminds me of a T-shirt I saw once with a picture of a dogsled and a caption that read, "Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes." Which made me think, "yeah, but even the lead dog is still strapped to a sled in the freakin' snow."
Try seducing him?
do you want to be the first one? it's a game, but it's a war as well, a competition, a championship. if you will be the 2nd, in that case you know that you are not the a-geek in that team.
Sorry, I can't be helpful (but really, has anybody else been helpful on this thread, either? :-p). The mention of a funny t-shirt causes me to want to post a story.
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
>>Anybody who's ever owned dogs know that you just don't throw two alpha dogs in together because they'll kill each other.
Odds are that after this, neither one of you will ever lead a team again.
I'm guessing after you walk in a circle a few times sniffing each others butts, you'll know which of you should be lead dog.
eyes a rollin
I get lots of email than can help you. Shall I forward it?
Well, assuming you aren't simply trolling my advice to you is to check your ego at the door and have a talk with your manager. You might want to ask your manager to call a team meeting where issues such as coding standards will be discussed.
One Programmer's Opinion
> You might want to ask your manager to call a team meeting
You could try learning team skills and stop blaming your boss for putting you on the same team (he should have known not to put two alpha males together...).
Is your forehead bleeding yet?
"To lead, you must follow behind. "
Why were you assigned to a new team? Did the other team oust it's "alpha" leader?
You have a bad manager, for putting two alpha males together without picking one person to lead. It sounds like he's avoid a difficult situation by letting you two duke it out, without consideration of the collateral damage.
I'm a zeta male.
I'd suggest removing your pants and bellowing at him as he codes, all the while thrusting your chest outwards and hopping menacingly.
Sigh... that should read "distract".
You should look upon it as an opportunity to learn not to be such a pig-headed twat, and learn how to create a constructive working relationship with equals.
Im in agreement with the 'twat' comment personally.
although the suggestion about beting your chest and hopping around aggressively while he codes is also a good one, I hope you give it the consideration it deserves.
> Alpha male is a crap term for an individual (male or female really) who is a born leader type but has no leadership skills
"Stop talking about me Aussie Chick, I'll start to think you fancy me or something ;-)"
there can be only one
I'd bet she doesn't fancy any of you.
Mr Jack, you made me laugh. 'Twat' what a cool word.
I know we hate managers but...
Maybe he's trying to assassinate them by leaving them in a room together for a few hours.
> she fancies me, not you. Im cuter and much funnier.
(With prior apologies to Aussie Chick)
"See! She fancies me - not you looosers."
there can be only one
Let's drop the term 'alpha male'. What we have here are two strongly opinionated and talented programmers who happen to have little common ground in style. There is nothing wrong with that, and there is nothing wrong with wanting to improve ones work situation.
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