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Salary rate for a 6 year proggy

Regional disparities discounted for, what is the average pay rate for six-year brew Indian proggy in the US? Yup! in this distressful climate you'd argue $0.00, but assuming the guy had an opportunity in the US, say in the North West somewhere, what should he expect:

(1) In these times
(2) When the economic situation is even

Vis-a-vis (can't find those wierd characters for the prims) an expat, what does a US citizen expect for a salary, given the same background.

Skill set: VB and stuff (to put it in short)

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

Says 1 comment (expurged)! I am sure I missed some fun.

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

I think Joel already filled his intern position?

GuyIncognito
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

>I think Joel already filled his intern position?

Yeah, and now he's got some serious people he needs, and that's why I ask.

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

I'm not in the US of A, so I can't directly comment. However I would say that you should think about broadening your skill set, a plain old programmer is not particularly interesting. There are lots of your type available, just like unskilled factory workers. You should think in terms of adding other skills, analysis, design, generally make yourself appear more interesting, move up the food chain a little.

That way lies the chance to (a) earn more money, (b) possibly insulate yourself a little more from offshoring, and (c) make yourself more interesting to employers.

This is what I've been angling to do over the last few years and I thinks its beginning to bear fruit.

I think the days of the straight programmer are coming to an end, at least in the west.

whattimeisiteccles
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

If you have worked on large projects, and you can handle large teams environment and gruesome environments, you should be able to ask for as much as any other programmer no? Do you intend to look for responsibilities as a team leader, project manager, presale consultation expert? Want to work in another big city? What sort of employment package are you looking for? Government, private, or small business? Are you architecting or prefer to code grunt/maintain code? All of these factors will affect your pay.

Li-fan Chen
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

Thanks! Modest or concise, I was being lazy I guess in not mentioning I have developed straight Win32 SDK apps without VB too, have over 6 yrs in VB 6, have just started a proj on .NET, and then there are lots of other interesting things worth adorning the resume (pardon the absence of those chars) with like XML, UML, COM, RAP, RAGGAE and all of that non-sense that one does over stints.

My mainstay is VB so I mentioned only that.

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

Oh and if its gonna help, I have over 4 years served in Finance as a Cost Accountant, and have a degree in Commerce and a CWA too.

And am working as a Senior (whatever that means) project lead currently. While I love coding, I have found myself lately writing proposals, specs, designing apps, ...et al.

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

http://www.fawcette.com/vsm/2003_06/magazine/features/salarysurvey/

GuyIncognito
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

http://www.salary.com

This is also a good one.  Run the Salary Wizard.  You can pick which state you will be working in.  After you run the wizard a job description is shown so you can see if that really matches your skillset, experience, etc.

shiggins
Tuesday, February 17, 2004


Didn't VB 6.0 ship in September of 1998?

With 6 years of experience in VB, you would have started in ... February of 1998.

Can you explain that?

Matt H.
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

Maybe he's rounding up the number of years of experience? Or perhaps he worked with a beta version?

Peter Gibbons
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

He said "Over 6 years" and I doubt it ...

Matt H.
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

"Didn't VB 6.0 ship in September of 1998?

With 6 years of experience in VB, you would have started in ... February of 1998.

Can you explain that?"


Since when was VB 6.0 the first version of VB?

Kyralessa
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

I show you mine if you show me yours.

Bathmophobic skier
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

"have over 6 yrs in VB 6"

Was the original quote.  sheesh.

Matt H.
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

If I had five years' experience on VB 6 and one year prior to that on VB5, I'd write it as six years on VB 6.  It's not VB 6 as distinguished from VB 5, but VB 6 as distinguished from VB .NET.  An important distinction.  Sheesh.

Kyralessa
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

Why is everybody hatin'?! Sheesh. Golly gee. Shazbot.

Peter Gibbons
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

65-85k

ok...
Tuesday, February 17, 2004

"have over 6 yrs in VB 6,"

Clearly, that wasn't a premeditated remark. Sorry for the habit of making typos, and another sorry for adding a version number, because that's the most recent one (precluding Visual Fred which I wouldn't count as VB).

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Wednesday, February 18, 2004

And to clarify, I started coding in the May of 1997 with Visual Basic 4 actually, and in Win32 SDK (without a client such as VB).

It was during then that many firms in India were switching from version 4 to 5. I began coding VB, as well as in Win32, for a company that had to spray colored ink on a several of the standard windows controls like the Toolbar, ListView, menus, using VC.

Sathyaish Chakravarthy
Wednesday, February 18, 2004

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