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Chest Pain ... Am I dying ?


Not sure if it's the best forums to ask health advices but let's give it a shot to see if some fellow developers
experienced similar health problem

Since 2 weeks, I've got some chest pain, only on the right side, nothing too painful.

But it has frightened me really bad, I'm on junk food (Mac Donald, Kebab, Hot Dogs, Chinese Food, Pizzas) well the usual coder meal ..

I'm 32 years old,
I'm slim,
I dont practive any sport, except the usual run to catch the train in time ;-)

2 years ago I had a blood test and the doctor told me I had  a high level of LDL (Bad Cholesterol) and I should be watching my diet and exercising, I have not done any of that.

Do you think the pain I'm experiencing
could be a symptom of a soon coming heart attack ?

These days I'm quite stressed,
I've problem to sleep, even when I'm really tired.
I cannot manage to go to bed before 3am or so ...

Feelin'Like Shite :-(
Monday, December 08, 2003

So ... doc ... the problem is my app is failing under nightly stress tests with an invalid pointer exception.  When I open it up under the debugger the pointer is way off into the weeds, but the logic leading up the exception seems correct.  Do you suppose it is a memory leak, and if so, where do you think that leak is?  Yes, I know you're not a programmer by profession, but I thought you might know something about software development.

Alyosha`
Monday, December 08, 2003

Umm...  I think you know the answer to your question.

Why the hell are you posting this here anyway.  You know what you have to do.  Do it.  It's rather foolish to be posting on a message board like this about chest pain.

1.  Go see a doctor.
2.  Get off your lazy ass and exercise.
3.  Lay off the junk food.

4. IF YOU DON'T YOU WILL DIE!!!  liek duh :-)

I don't understand why people don't take doctors seriously?  Do they have to hold a gun to your head?  Come on people, we all have common sense.


Monday, December 08, 2003

The irony of the situation is that he's gonna die regardless of whether he does those three things.

We're all dying.  Some just do it faster than others.

Alyosha`
Monday, December 08, 2003

See a damned doctor! You need to be examined and screened for risk factors.

In the meantime...  my *layman's guess* is that your chest pains are simply stress.

However, sometimes people in their 20's fall over dead of heart attacks.  So this isn't something to screw around with.

I have the same problem from time to time, caused by stress. But I am under supervision of a doctor and I know what my numbers are running (weight, blood pressure, etc).

Good luck.

Bored Bystander
Monday, December 08, 2003

Don't see a doctor.  Better for the gene pool.

Darwin
Monday, December 08, 2003

Change the diet. I don't know what your symptoms indicate, but the diet certainly isn't *helping*. Find different restaurants to eat at. Most cities have some damn fine establishments. If your in Grand Rapids, try the Que, located on wealthy and division. Get off the junk food. Find a meat market. It is *not hard to do*! I'm a college student and I manage to eat well. Very well. Not exactly balanced, but it's balanced towards meats and starches, not chips and McD's ;)

I have no idea what effect the stress may be having on your body, but mentally it's a killer. Anyone can tell you that. Relax. Make a point of not taking work home with you. I really like being able to say "I don't have to worry about that until I arrive tomorrow", and then I don't. Go take up a sport you can play. Maybe start playing pool. It can be fun and pool halls are open as late as your stuck up anyway. Get your mind off of whatever's killing you.

I do not know how others deal with pressure, but I don't stress out over things. If you just stop worrying so damn much you'll be happier. And if you are worrying that much, there's probably nothing you can do about whatever's bothering you. Keep telling yourself that. I know soo many people that let things get to them. They freak out during exam week. I go to the pool hall. I'll do as well as I do, and no better. Why kill myself over it? Is it really worth it?

Yeah, it's easier to say it than to do it, but don't you think you'll be happier when you're spending less money and eating steak and going out all the time?

Maybe you should get a book on time management. If your good at making sure you have time to get things done (and few people have more to do than they have time for) you'll worry about it less.

Mike Swieton
Monday, December 08, 2003

Your heart is on the left side.  Maybe all the junk food is giving you some killer gas.

me
Monday, December 08, 2003

No need to worry. I have chest pain all the time and I'm doing fine.

runtime
Monday, December 08, 2003

Don't go see a doctor, you'll be fine. And eat more Tandoori Chicken.





mwa ha ha ha ha.... one less competitor.

whoops, did I say that out loud?

Full name:
Monday, December 08, 2003

Oddly enough I had the same problem.  This is not medical advice.  I am 29, but I had a brush with cancer so I am concerned about every ache and pain.  It went away, but it took a long time.  I assume I pulled something in the gym in a strange way.  Muscle tears can take a long time to heal. 

christopher baus (www.baus.net)
Monday, December 08, 2003

Does it get worse when you breath in? If so, it's probably in the musculature of the chest and so not a more serious internal problem.

As someone else pointed out, your heart's on your left.

However you might have a serious problem with your lung.

It's off the doc for you, laddie.

analyst
Monday, December 08, 2003

off to the doc ...

anlayst
Monday, December 08, 2003

I can't reproduce this problem.  Had McDonald's for lunch and still no effect.

Please provide step-by-step instructions.

Joe Blandy
Monday, December 08, 2003

are you sure you don't just have heartburn?

_
Monday, December 08, 2003

Probably heart burn. Run up and down the stairs a few times. If you can't breath and pass out you have a heart condition, otherwise probably heart burn. Go to the doctor and get some medication to help your heart burn pain.

Matthew Lock
Monday, December 08, 2003

Shite,

Why don't you take up smoking too?

pdq
Monday, December 08, 2003

"Your heart is on the left side."

In most cases, yes, it's on the left.  It's really rare, but there are a few folks who do have it on the other side (according to a cardiology nurse I used to work with).

Of course, this is entirely a moot point of trivia because the main point here is that the original poster should quit playing Russian roulette with his health and go see a doctor.

Matt Latourette
Monday, December 08, 2003

we could run a book on how long he will last.

say, if he promises to post here...maybe every day at a particular time until he is incapable of it, we could bet on how many posts will be made...

any takers?

FullNameRequired
Monday, December 08, 2003

How do we make sure nobody figures out where he lives and goes and bumps him off???

I hate cheaters
Monday, December 08, 2003

Message for the dying guy:

Dude, when you kick the bucket, can I have first dibs on all your cool stuff and on your wife/girlfriend (only if she's hot, of course)?

Beware the power of my stinky feet!
Monday, December 08, 2003

This was  a thread in search of salad cream for a very long time.

Simon Lucy
Monday, December 08, 2003

HE MIGHT HAVE A PIECE OF POLISH SAUSAGE WEDGED IN THE LINING OF HIS HEART.

JOE SWERSKI
Monday, December 08, 2003

"Feel your heart pumping a mile a minute?  That's what my heart's doing all the time!  I bet your left arm is tingling, too!"

Homer Simpson
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

Feelin'Like Shite :-(:

Move to the Caribbeans and get an teacher's degree teaching anything from physical ed to coral diving lessons (or whatever healthy lifestyle you can muster in a healthier place)

Li-fan Chen
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

See your family doctor immediate, get your lecture, heed the warnings, change your life style.

Li-fan Chen
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

I'm amazed. Some posts are moderated and removed because the not-so-fit-joel's-view-of-the-world-or-they-not-100%-software-enginnering-related (I've tried to check out if any of JetBrains people are here once).

But now guys asking for cellular provider change or chest problems get so much popularity. Way to go, fellas.

Evgeny Goldin
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

Why is going to the doctor such a big decision that you have to ask us?

Going to the doctor is not like changing your job or moving to another city, after all. Unless you are in Antarctica and would have to abandon your research project at a vital stage and travel to another continent in order to get to the appointment.

So, off you go then. Maybe you need treatment and maybe you don't. Either way, you'll be glad you got real medical advice.

Fernanda Stickpot
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

Just remember...GIGO.

John Topley (www.johntopley.com)
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

yes - expect to drop dead sometime in the next 100 years.

Is the chest pain a heart attack?  How the hell would we know?  See your doctor - and stop fretting.  Getting stressed worrying about a stress-related illness has to be the silliest example of recursion I know.

If he says you've high blood pressure then it's either diet or aspirin.  In my case I've done the diet - next stop is blood pressure monitor at home and then the little pills.  I'm not wildly enthusiastic but it's better than the alternative.

A cynic writes
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

You need to run Linux.  That should fix the problem :)

Ben
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

I predict that seeing someone ask a medical question here just to avoid a $10 copay is the saddest thing I will see all day.

Kyralessa
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

The greatest indicator that the chest pain is cardiac is if it occurs on exertion.  If it occurs at rest it is likely something else (though there are rare instances to the contary).  You are also a bit young for angina and it is on the wrong side.  Could be a lot of things.

See a doctor before this thread is deleted.

Name withheld out of cowardice
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

...$10 copay....

No you've lost me there - some sort of payment for seeing a GP?  Sorry - I'm not used to the idea of paying to see the doctor so I don't know the terminology. 

Britain has a National Health Service which is (for the most part) free at the point of delivery.  You do however pay for prescriptions unless you're old, young, poor, pregnant or chronically ill.  In other words most people don't pay for prescriptions. 

A cynic writes
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

Here in the US with our "efficient" private sector health system, most plans require you to pay $10 or $15 for routine office visits. Plan pays the rest. They also  require you so see one of their "participating" doctors (meaning s/he caved in to their pressure and accepts their payment level).

It's a good system ... if you don't get sick :)

sgf
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

They're thinking of charging for visits to the GP here as well, basically because they consider us a bunch of ingrates for expecting free care in exchange for a mere 11% of net pay and GBP 6.30 (around USD 9-10) for each prescribed item.

Fernanda Stickpot
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

Sorry, that should have read '11% of gross pay'

Fernanda Stickpot
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

copays (which not every american has, some have none, some have deductibles, most now have both) are  potentially quite sensible--they are (or were) small, but large enough to prevent people from 'spamming' their doctors every time something happens. the NHS is notorious (is this true?) for rationing by time instead of money (wait months to see a doctor)

the whole rest of the medical billing system in this country is a total mess. the administrators get rich, the doctors spend much of their time dealing with billing administration, healthcare costs continue to rise, and the patients get the short end of the stick.

plus half the time you see the doctor they say "you don't have a heart attack, but I don't know what you have and your 7 minutes are up." which is probably better than knowing nothing at all.

mb
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

I'll grant you the NHS does take a while to see a specialist - but to see a GP it's usually quick.  Before our last move I'd usually get an appointment on the same day - our current doctor it takes about a week. 

A cynic writes
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

RTFM

At least that's what I do with cigars.... Smoking when pregnent is not good.

I am not in utero, so I am safe :)

Have not had fast foods in a while so not sure what their documentation says!

Tapiwa
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

"Dude, when you kick the bucket, can I have first dibs on all your cool stuff and on your wife/girlfriend (only if she's hot, of course)?"

You think, if he had a wife or girlfriend, she would have made him go to the doctor already.

Women: making men do the things they have to do but don't really want to since 4004 BC.

Alyosha`
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

Matt Latourette, your trivia point about hearts sometimes being on the right side may be entirely moot, but it is indeed correct. My brother has total situs inversus, and all of his internal organs -- heart, stomach, liver, etc. -- appear to be mirror-flipped. Other than that he's totally normal.

John C.
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

"My brother has total situs inversus, and all of his internal organs -- heart, stomach, liver, etc. -- appear to be mirror-flipped. Other than that he's totally normal. "

That's what you think. Maybe he's your brother from a parallel universe where left is right, right is left, good is evil, evil is good, etc.

Beware the power of my stinky feet!
Tuesday, December 09, 2003

>> Maybe he's your brother from a parallel universe

ONLY if he has a beard...

Bored Bystander
Thursday, December 11, 2003

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