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A few months ago, I've chosen Stargate ( http://www.stargate.com ) as the web hosting provider for a new web site for my small software company. The main reason was that Stargate offers a lot of bandwidth for a reasonable price (10GB/$10), and you need some bandwidth if you're selling downloadable software via your site.

Unfortunately, service has been spotty so far. The site is down one or two times a week for several hours, especially the ASP pages, and we've had several other problems. I'm thinking of migrating to another hosting provider, maybe to http://www.ev1servers.net/ but I'd like to get some advice first. A quick Google search didn't help, so I thought I'd ask here. What are good providers, and do any of you have problems with Stargate as well? Thanks!

Frederik Slijkerman
Sunday, November 23, 2003

You might be better off asking in Webmaster World or in that forum that RackShack runs, I forget the name. You may want to look at the Netcraft stats for any host you're looking at.

Personally, I've been a satisfied Pair customer for years. They don't compete on price/space typically, but they've been rock solid where other hosts aren't.

www.MarkTAW.com
Sunday, November 23, 2003

I'm a satisfied http://34sp.com  customer. I have several domains on their 2$/month program. I know many other people who use them (many through my recommendation), and they've all had a very positive experience.

Not affiliated in any way, just a happy customer.

Ori Berger
Sunday, November 23, 2003

For 18 months now I lease a dedicated server at ev1servers and I can't remember being down ever this year. The big but is that their servers are unmanaged. They only do reboots and restores. The good thing is that their forums are great. If you are too scared of that Linux command prompt you can always hire one of the forum moderators to manage the server for you.

For normal hosting accounts I would stay away though. It's low priority to them and they put you on one of those old and very slow Cobalt Pizza boxes. You are better of with pair.com or futurequest.net for standard hosting accounts.

And the web site Mark is referring to is:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com
it is a great resource, which rackshack (now ev1servers) recently sold. So they no longer the own it.

Jan Derk
Sunday, November 23, 2003

I had Futurequest for several years and only left them when I set up a 'root' host at www.rosehosting.com. FQ was extremely reliable and responsive. However, they certainly aren't a price leader and they charge $25 (flat one time rate) for every domain you attach to a hosting account.

Bored Bystander
Sunday, November 23, 2003

> Personally, I've been a satisfied Pair customer for years.

I'll second that.  I've been with them for a little over 2 years and I've never had a problem.

Joe Blandy
Sunday, November 23, 2003

The hosting industry seems to attract a lot of unsavory characters.  Friends of mine got burned by the company described here:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/bhcom.htm

You might also see these earlier discussions:

http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=24776&ixReplies=18

http://discuss.fogcreek.com/citydesk/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=3246&ixReplies=6

J. D. Trollinger
Sunday, November 23, 2003

Ditto to the Pair recommendation from Blandy and MarkTAW.  Pair is really excellent.  Reliable servers, good customer service.

jbarn
Sunday, November 23, 2003

I'm very satisfied with www.ev1servers.net dedicated servers. I run web applications which include appl. servers, databases, mail servers, and other software on Linux. "Up time" is very, very good.

I don't know about their "shared" services, but should be good, too.

PS: I offer managed* corporate dedicated hosting, but it seems you are looking for a cheap hosting plan.

Evgeny Gesin /Javadesk/
Monday, November 24, 2003

I am amazed at people that see these "unmetered, unlimited" accounts and go "Hey, I could host my 300GB traffic site there for only 3.99$ a month, great!". What do they think the business model is? A charity?

Are these the same peole that fall for Nigerian scams?

Just me (Sir to you)
Monday, November 24, 2003

Thanks a lot for all the recommendations. Pair looks good, but unfortunately it doesn't support ASP, which means that we'd have to rewrite our existing ASP pages in PHP. And
yes, I realize now that it isn't such a great idea to go for the cheapest provider, so I'm willing to pay more than $10 a month, but the $100 or so for a dedicated server is a bit too high at the moment.

Browsing through Webhostingtalk, I found a recommendation for http://www.exa-bytes.com which seems to be quite reasonable. Any experience with them?

Frederik Slijkerman
Monday, November 24, 2003

Allow me to drop just one other name and then I'll shut up. :-)  Any experiences with www.weberz.com ?

Frederik Slijkerman
Monday, November 24, 2003

Checkout www.webhost4life.com

Affordable ASP.NET and SQL Server hosting. I've been with them for over a year now. Excellent service.

rml
Monday, November 24, 2003

Frederic, try http://www.webhostingtalk.com

Don't expect 99% up time and corporate-level service on the shared servers. Lower your expectations. Check http://cqhost.com, too

Evgeny Gesin /Javadesk/
Monday, November 24, 2003

I have been hosting my web sites at http://www.stlhosting.com for the last 4 months. It's a one-(smart)-guy company, and I am very pleased of my choice. I believe you may have some special rate when you go at  http://www.webhostingtalk.com

In any case, if you want to host sharewares... you might want to have a look at filekicker http://www.filekicker.com/pricing.asp who will serve any file you want for a small fee, garanteeing availability, scalability and without any burden on your web hosting account....

jcm
Monday, November 24, 2003

pair has been around a long time. Only heard good things about them. I used iserver.com for many, many years but they are a bit more expensive than most and I think they've changed their names since being bought out a few times

Me
Monday, November 24, 2003

I've maintained my personal website(s) on pair for years, at least 4 or 5, and earlier this year tried Hostrocket because I wanted to develop a site that required more space, and a database, which Pair charges quite a bit for. I had friends who used hostrocket and were happy with it.

Well, the hostrocket site was down on a regular basis, or the database was. One day I called when the site was down and they assured me that it was some problem they had with a new install of the SQL server and I'd have no more problems... The server was down for 3 more hours. I made up my mind to go back to Pair and pay the extra money right then and there.

I contacted them once to ask why they didn't compete on space / price, and they told me that they simply don't, though I've noticed they keep adding to their packages lately. Their selling point is reliability, and their reliability has been top notch.

Again, check netcraft http://uptime.netcraft.com/perf/reports/Hosters and see where your host is on that list.

www.MarkTAW.com
Monday, November 24, 2003

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