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Stupidity Video

http://www.softwaremarketsolution.com/files/StupidityInterview-147kbps.wmv

Has Chapman talking about book, marketing stuff.  Very funny segment on Dalai Lama.  Talks about Joel.

Saturday the 22nd
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Jeez, a 50Meg download... Has anyone else got a smaller version, or indeed a transcript?

Tapiwa
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Have just been to their websites ...
http://www.softwaremarketsolution.com/

That there is one UGLY website.

Tapiwa
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Why download?  Streaming format.

The link is at www.insearchofstupidity.com.

Didn't look at the other site.  Not sure how pretty it is but has a lot of good stuff on it.  Never knew much about focus groups.

Saturday the 22nd
Saturday, November 22, 2003

I downloaded the video. There are some funny cartoons.

Evgeny Gesin /Javadesk/
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Great information humorous stuff  but who's basement did they shoot it in and he could be the geekdom poster boy.


Saturday, November 22, 2003

Streaming video at 147kbps - not really on for a dial up or ISDN connection.

Stephen Jones
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Speaking of which... do you know of a good editing application to edit and convert WMV files to eg. AVI or RealVideo?

Frederic Faure
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Very entertaining video, good use of the web for excerpts.  But is there a rational reason not to have excerpts on Amazon?  Many Apress titles seem to take advantage of them.  After investing time reading them, customers probably also look for book websites.

Tayssir John Gabbour
Saturday, November 22, 2003

I no longer get any sound around 7:30 in the video.

Frederic Faure
Saturday, November 22, 2003


The Wordpro & Wordpro 2000 annecdote is actually
quite funny.

Fairlight
Saturday, November 22, 2003

Man, that guy comes off as an arrogant moron for the most part. 


Sunday, November 23, 2003

Hmmm, arrogant possibly, moron certainly not.  I'd guess the point about institutional memory kind of missed you.

Simon Lucy
Sunday, November 23, 2003


A lot of people are arrogant if your definition of arrongant
is knowing your subject well.

Fairlight
Sunday, November 23, 2003

"Man, that guy comes off as an arrogant moron for the most part. "

So YOU'RE the guy who put the Dalai Lama on that poster!

Sunday the 23
Sunday, November 23, 2003

IMO, hindsight is 20/20 - if this guy had the insight into why these projects failed (for example, at micropro) while they were in the process of failing and turned the companies around or pointed it out to management, etc - then I would give him more credit. 

For example, today it's plain as day why the .com implosion occurred.  Anybody with a brain can see that.  But how many startup companies realized (at the height of the .com boom) that they would have to figure out a way to be profitable in a short order or close its doors?  There may have been a few, and those companies are most likely still in business.  Does that make me an expert or really intelligent? No. 

In conclusion, it's not hard to look back in time and point out other people's mistakes.  It's a completely different thing to realize the mistakes in 'real-time' and try to change them.  If this guy was so insightful, he might be the CEO of MicroPro today for saving the company 20 years ago and it's flagship product WordStar XP would be kicking Word's ass. ;-) 


Sunday, November 23, 2003

I remember the Micropro debacle and as an OEM we told them it was an impossible situation that Wordstar 2000 couldn't use the huge printer database that Wordstar had.

But as was said in the presentation, internally Micropro had a complete war between those that had developed Wordstar 3 and Wordstar 2000.  Nothing anybody said made the slightest difference to them.

At the same time I was porting Microsoft Word, which had fewer features and was much harder to port than WS and it was around that time that it started to make inroads into the market.

Simon Lucy
Sunday, November 23, 2003


Simon Lucy :

Have you worked with Richard Brodie and Charles Simonyi ?

Fairlight
Sunday, November 23, 2003

"if this guy had the insight into why these projects failed (for example, at micropro) while they were in the process of failing and turned the companies around or pointed it out to management, "

Might help if you read the book.

Saturday the 22nd
Sunday, November 23, 2003

I've never worked at Microsoft, so I've not worked with either of them.  I worked at Apricot which at the time had a non-IBM PC compatible range of computers (actually they were more Victor 9000/Sirius I compatible), and for a while I got to port standard MS apps.

Then the 'office' applications were built around a p-code application on top of a run time that was built for the IBM PC but could be ported to any other MS-DOS environment.

The run time was mostly in Intel assembler.  In truth we had a better product on Apricot hardware as we had the equivalent of the graphics version of Word (with functionally changing cursor) in text mode.  I can't claim any credit for that bit, I did do the colour version just before I left and let it go with an interesting colour cycling bug.  Ho hum.

Simon Lucy
Monday, November 24, 2003

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