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how much your salary increase this year?

how much your salary increase for this year or income comparable to last year ?
I live in Malaysia. Mine is 5%. I think it's very low, but I don't know in other country.

contractor wannabe
Monday, November 17, 2003

You're doing well.

Dennis Atkins
Monday, November 17, 2003

Mine's been 0% in 2002 and 0% in 2003.

Rumours are they are giving us a 3 point someting % for 2004.

The other Michael Bolton
Monday, November 17, 2003

At my company in Israel:

-10% in 2001 (yup, they reduced our salaries)
0% in 2002
0% in 2003

I'm leaving in 2004.

Yoav
Monday, November 17, 2003

Salary freeze since October 2001 :-(

Employed Russian
Monday, November 17, 2003

My last pay rise was in 2001, 1.2%. Actually my last performance review was in 2001.

Walter Rumsby
Monday, November 17, 2003

Here's how the past 5 have gone;

1999 - 3 raises of 6% each
2000 - 2 raises of 8% each
2001 - 2 raises - 10% and 40%
2002 - no raises
2003 - laid off

Ugh.

Norrick
Monday, November 17, 2003

UK ..

difficult to tell as annual pay increase tends to come at the same time as promotions etc...

but every year we have at least an inflationary payrise and annual bonus of ~ 8%...

I appreciate he has his detractors, but in one of his books, Michael Moore talks about how the 'workers' are repeatedly told to tighten their belts etc, while the 'owners' continue to profit ... hearing of these 0% raises over several years makes me wonder if he's right ..

blargle
Monday, November 17, 2003

contractor wannabe,

If you don't want your job in malaysia, we'll take it.

All of Us
Monday, November 17, 2003

well, it hasn't increased *yet*, but i'm going to be asking for a raise at the end of the year.  Its a little different since i'm still in college, but i'll be asking for a 15% raise.  I think its fair, considering I went from knowing about 4 or so languages really well, to also becoming one of the top 3 j2EE guys at our company.  And, I don't make *that* much.  Both of the development leads make about twice as much as me.

Vince
Monday, November 17, 2003

2001 - 0%
2002 - 0%, then redundant
2003 - accepted job with longer hours and more tedium for lower salary

An uncomfortable trend, eh?

Shodan
Monday, November 17, 2003

1996-2000 - Generally about 8-25% pa
2001 - -50% (Moved from Sydney to Brisbane - lower cost of living plus dot com bomb)
2002 & 2003 -  15%

Rhys Keepence
Monday, November 17, 2003

I'm the (part) owner of my business, so it's not really sallary, but here it is:

2001: No raise (0%)
2002: Minus 30%
2003: Plus 4%

The minus 30% was due to a large client that got bought up by an even larger company and didn't throw off near as much work to us under the new management. The business was still (barely) profitable as a whole, just not as profitable as it had been in past years.

Anyway, for our employees, here's the averages over the last few years:

2001: 6.5%
2002: No raise -- Salary freeze
2003: 4%

I'd say that, in this market, 5% is doing pretty good.

FYI: US (midwest). Primarily a database development shop with Microsoft products.

Sgt. Sausage
Monday, November 17, 2003

2000: 20%
2001: 0%
2002: 0%
2003: 0%

Not looking good for 2004.

ted
Monday, November 17, 2003

Lets see..
2000: 9%
2001: -2,5%
2002: 4%
2003: 2%

And I am on my third jobb so far since 2000...

John
Monday, November 17, 2003

I have contracted at the same company for 4 years:
2000 -  +2%  (started with them)
2001 - +210%  (a really good contract)
2002 - -55%  (things tough, but they still wanted me)
2003 - -50%  (things tough, but they still wanted me)

At the same time, employees at this same company...

2000 - +2% + 20% bonus (~$15k for most programmers)
2001 - 0% (and no bonus)
2002 - 0%, layoffs and no bonus below Vice President
2003 - 0%, and no bonus below Vice President

Execs take care of themselves here.  Programmers (IT in general) are considered an expense, not an asset.

HidingForGoodReason
Monday, November 17, 2003

Interestingly enough, I just landed a new job – after a year of being unemployed.

I was assuming that I'd have to take at least a small cut in pay (if not a big one), but I actually got a 6% increase over my last base salary.

Not too bad, especially if you consider that the people left at my previous employer haven't gotten more then 1% raises for the past 3 years...

RocketJeff
Monday, November 17, 2003

May 2000 - May 2001 : 75k/year + 15k bonus
(three weeks unplanned *vacation* here)
May 2001 - Nov 2002 : $50/hr
Nov 2002 - Oct 2003  : $65/hr
Nov 2003 - Sep 2004 : $80/hr
Sep 2004 - ?              :  $100/hr or $0 :)

I am a lead programmer/dba/project manager (contract) for a very large county on the west coast.

What recession?
Monday, November 17, 2003

2001: ~10%
2002: ~25%
2003: Yer jokin' right?

Sum Dum Gai
Monday, November 17, 2003

5% in 2002.
No increase in 2003.
Let's see what happens in 2004.

Anonymous
Monday, November 17, 2003

5% in 2003. Happy to get that

halpgr
Monday, November 17, 2003

Well, I was unemployed last year, and now I'm working, so ... infinite.

My salary increased by 26% from 2001 to 2003, but of course that was at different companies.

Alyosha`
Monday, November 17, 2003

contract wannabe

I know .NET, fluent in C++, MFC, COM+, etc. Are you guys hiring? i live in Oregon and can fly to Malasia on a moment's notice.

o'my
Monday, November 17, 2003

Last year was about 3%, and this year I am getting let go due to downsizing.

m
Monday, November 17, 2003

1998... +30%
1999... +50%
2000... +8%
2001... +8%
2002... 0%
2003... -33%

anon
Monday, November 17, 2003

97 - $54K CDN
98 - $68K CDN
99 - $98K CDN
00 - $79K USD (xfer)
01 - $80K USD (new job)
02 - $95K USD (new job)
03 - $99K USD

Wasn't too thrilled with the latest increase, but from the looks of everyone else I should be pretty happy that I'm still working!

MercuryFord
Monday, November 17, 2003

99: NZ31k (new/first full-time perm dev job)
00: NZ35k
01: NZ45k
02: AU50k (new job)
03: AU50k (new job)

Jack of all
Monday, November 17, 2003

Working as a Java/Oracle programmer in India:

1999 - USD 1900 pa
2000 - USD 2600
2001 - USD 4800
2002 - USD 7400
2003 - USD 14k
2004 (Expected) - USD 20-25k

rml
Tuesday, November 18, 2003

rml - are those increases the result of job hopping, or raises within the same company?

--
Tuesday, November 18, 2003

Er, let's see from Dec 2000 - Dec 2001, +11%
Dec 2001 - Dec 2002 + 35%
Dec 2002 - Dec 2003 + 13%

Or there abouts.

Mr Jack
Tuesday, November 18, 2003

not much, but I got stock options at $0.10 out the wazzoo.

drowning in choices
Tuesday, November 18, 2003


Currently 50K (Euro) a year

Expecting 60K(Euro) this year


I work for a the IT department of a company,
I'm the lead developer on our ERP system.

I live in France.

Damn! I've just found out that for a similar job I could get
$120K a year in the US :-(

Fairlight
Tuesday, November 18, 2003

Yeah but you'd have to live in America...

Mr Jack
Wednesday, November 19, 2003

“Damn! I've just found out that for a similar job I could get
$120K a year in the US :-(“

You have to consider the cost of living when comparing incomes. For instance a regular 2 bedroom apartment in Manhattan is 750k or more. A 100k income in Manhattan gets you as far as 50k in Midwest (or possibly 50k in France).

coresi
Wednesday, November 19, 2003

There is a website where you can type in any two locations and compare incomes needed.

The differences are often greater between countries than within them.

Remember that you get to keep the more expensive  apartment.

And most people in NY will be commuting from somewhere a lot cheaper than Manhattan.

And Paris property prices are sky high.

Stephen Jones
Thursday, November 20, 2003

>There is a website where you can type in any two
>locations and compare incomes needed.

Oh please tell me where it is!!!

I am persuading my girlfriend to move from Germany to the UK after being in the US 3 years ago.

3 or 4 years ago she was earning 58K$
She moved to Germany and went to 49KEuro.
Now we are looking at a UK salary of 25K£ (37.5K$) with an extra 3 years of experience.

Is this in line with expectations?
Considering someone with 4/5 yrs experience in the SW UK I think 25K is an average salary now. But looking at the drop since 3 yrs ago - it's crazy.

I can't understand where the big difference in cost of living comes from!
Thanks for any comments!

Max Allan
Sunday, January 11, 2004

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