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Why 'win'word and not 'win' excel?

Okie.
Just curious about this.
I almost always use Keyboard to operate my PC [Until I have to work in Photoshop & Flash].

To open Microsoft word, I put [Win Key] + R and type winword. [The MS Word exe is named 'windword']

But then why excel.exe is not named as winexcel? What about Access? [It is named msaccess.exe] and finally Powerpoint is powerpnt.exe. Why this incosistency??

Just curious!
JD
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JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Just a side note:

Why can't I type 'my documents' in Run box and make it open 'My Documents' folder??

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

> Why can't I type 'my documents' in Run box and make it open 'My Documents' folder??

I can, using Win2K. I don't even have to type in the double quotes around "My Documents".

Christopher Wells
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Don't know.  But maybe it's because Word is the only one of those programs that had a separate version that worked on DOS machines.  I know Access and Excel have never had DOS versions.  Not sure whether Powerpoint did, but I'm pretty sure it didn't.  So 'winword.exe' may have been necessary to distinguish that version from the word.exe that was the DOS version.  Just a guess.

Herbert Sitz
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

I use XP now and typing 'My Documents' doesn't work. I don't remember trying this on 2000.

JD
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JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Works for me.


Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Win XP Pro.. typed My Documents at the prompt and it opened my documents.

I wonder why that works...  seems rather odd. 

Almost Anonymous
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Really?

It doesn't work for me and as of now it looks logical to me.

The mentioned programs are able to run because they are name of executable files which is in folder specified by 'PATH' environment variable. I don't think anything similar exists for 'My Documents'.

So my understanding says that it should not work and that is why I am asking for a way! And if it is working for you, please tell me what did you do with your default install?? I have a fresh XP install on my machine and it ain't working.

JD
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JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Did you noticed that in my first post, I typed 'winDword' instead of 'winword' ??

This is odd because I made sure that I 'proof-read' the post! ;)

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

I can't do it in W2000. I've renamed (and moved) the folder mind you.

Stephen Jones
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Yep, even I have moved and renamed the folder from default.

Just to verify, I even set the My Documents folder to default and it's still not working.

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

On my (Win2K) desktop there's an icon called "My Documents". In this icon's properties it says "The My Documents folder is a shortcut to the target folder location shown below." It also has a "Restore Default" button. Try that.

Christopher Wells
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

The location of My Documents is decided by a registry key called "Personal".

However run will look in the default place which is C:\Documents and Settings\user so if you have moved or deleted a folder from that place it will not show up, even if you have changed the registry.

Stephen Jones
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Hi Christopher,

What I tried what the option you mentioned. Still didn't work.

Also, the default folder is also there in Documents & Settings folder.

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

~tr/What I tried what /What I tried was

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

I'm on Win2k3 server, and typing My Documents into the run window does nothing.  I have not moved or renamed the My Documents folder.

how bizarre.

nathan
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

I have just tried it on 2 machines - XP Pro & Win2k3 server. It works on both...

James Ussher-Smith
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

My Documents works for me on XP.  Also, Desktop and Control Panel work. 

SomeBody
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

> What I tried what the option you mentioned. Still didn't work

Tried rebooting after making that change?

Christopher Wells
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Windows XP SP1

Win-R
My Documents
[Ok]

Error Dialog:
Title: My
Content: Windows cannot find 'My'.  Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.  To search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search.

MR
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Please!

I can't reboot! See I am in office and working while browsing JoS!

Btw, to open control panel, I type 'control' in Run Window. I can also type 'Control Panel'! :)

But typing desktop doesn't do anything. It gives an error saying 'Windows can not find desktop'! ;)

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

"Control panel" works though.  "Desktop" does not.

I just VNC'ed into my home XP Pro SP1 machine and "My Documents" works fine.  At work we use Novell for authentication, so maybe Novell is screwing with 'my documents' and 'desktop', since those are user-specific.

MR
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

You can always restart Explorer.
You can also expand environment variables-- %USEPROFILE% or %TEMP%

mb
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

I just tried Win2k3 Server & Win 2000 server.  Typed My Documents in the run window.  Cannot find 'My'.  Make sure it's spelled correctly blah blah.

Win2k Server is a clean install, with just the latest security updates.

nathan
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Btw,

My 'sidenote' caused the whole topic to move in different direction!

Any takers for my original question about naming of executables in MS Office??

JD

JD
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

make a .cmd if you want winexcel


Wednesday, January 21, 2004

For word, it's probably because it was "Word for Windows" a successor to Word for Dos.

Excel as near as I can tell was windows only.

MS Access was not originally bundled in Office.

In fact, I think only powerpoint (who's name is longer then the 8 character allowed in win 3.1) was created for Office. And the original Office was just a value bundling of "second tier" applications, Word 6.0, Excel 4.0, etc..

I got them originally cause they were cheap compared to Lotus and WordPerfect.

Saruman
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

Hang on, wasn't PowerPoint a case of Microsoft buying the company to get the product? I don't think it was developed in house by MS.

John Topley (www.johntopley.com)
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

"In fact, I think only powerpoint (who's name is longer then the 8 character allowed in win 3.1) was created for Office."

powerpnt.exe = 8.3

John Topley (www.johntopley.com)
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

>> Did you noticed that in my first post, I typed 'winDword'

Maybe you were thinking about the 32-bit version?

Alex.ro
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

I'd guess that executable names derive from whoever had the job of creating the make/build.  They tend to be 8.3 even in our more elastic times if for no other reason than its still easier to manipulate 8.3 at the console.

Simon Lucy
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

"'winword.exe' may have been necessary to distinguish that version from the word.exe that was the DOS version"

Bing!  That's it.

Wasn't Excel like the only app avilable for Windows 1 and 2?

I drooled over the Mac version of Excel while plugging away on Lotus 123 3.0 which could use like 4 megs of extended (or was that expanded? ;-) memory!

Sure glad I don't need to remember.

fool for python
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

At least Microsoft has the sense to keep the executable name the same from one version to the next.  I wrote code to integrate with one application and have had to modify it every time we've upgraded to a new version because they keep changing the name of the executable.  They've also moved all the registry keys associated with the app to a new location for every new version as well.

Matt
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

"Wasn't Excel like the only app avilable for Windows 1 and 2?"

Nope. In fact, Microsoft licensed Windows 2.x for distribution with applications. One such application was Aldus PageMaker. There were definitely other applications for Windows prior to 3.x, although it was really 3.0 that launched it into the big time for application development.

Windows 3.0 brought us resources (dialog boxes, icons, etc.). It also brought the first protected mode support.

Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
Wednesday, January 21, 2004

ahh yes.  Page maker and those other early windows apps....sSo long a go. Just a distant fog.

For many people it really was a Solitaire shell. But the apps started pouring in soon enough.

fool for python
Thursday, January 22, 2004

JD,
also note that WinWord is not in %PATH%, but rather in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Path...

WildTiger
Thursday, January 22, 2004

anyone remember GEM desktop?

Tapiwa
Tuesday, January 27, 2004

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