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Google is getting worse!

I wanted to find a good software uninstaller, so I searched fo some reviews. I have searched for (without quotes):

review uninstallers

The URL for the search is:

http://www.google.com/search?q=review+uninstallers


Guess what it returns, at the top of the list?

Here it is:


galery tees galery is review darkzone

review galery tees galery and darkzone. This site is all about galery tees galery, we strive to give you the best content on review galery tees galery . ...

(url withheld by me - it's a porn site)


is uninstallers teen naturists

uninstallers and teen naturists. This site is all about , we strive to give you the best content on uninstallers . If you can't find ...

(url withheld by me - it's a porn site)


These things didn't happen before on Google.

:-(

Elgoog
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

maybe your filter content switch got toggled??????? perhaps by your teenage son :P

www.marktaw.com
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

Interestingly, SafeSearch does not filter them.

Gertjan
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

Google isn't getting worse!
Google is just a mathematical algorythm that hardly changes over time. Site owners who want their sites up in the ranking will try to influence the algorythm any way they can: by choosing keywords and page titles, by creating links direct or indirect to their sites whereever thay can.

Google isn't getting worse!
We just have to learn to use google to give us what we need instead of expecting Google to do that for us. Google is, by design, very similar to a bureaucratic desk clerk. You have to know want you want, how to ask it and even how to get it if you were that bureaucrat.

You don't go into a restaurant and yell: FOOD!! and expect to get the a meal to your tasting. You'll have to be more specific (double latte, low fat, decaff, no sugar, medium rare, etc)

Geert-Jan Thomas
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

Have you tried searching for product or service information lately?

Today I tried to find the web sites of a couple of hotels in Sydney, Australia. They were swamped by hundreds of discount hotel sites, most using the same crappy reservation and search internals.

Same result when I tried to find specific review and comparison details of two digital cameras. I was overwhelmed by seller sites, making it difficult to find the information I was seeking.

Too many sites link to the internal engines of Amazon, epinions, etc., add no specific value, and obscure the sites which are actually useful.

HeWhoMustBeConfused
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

> Google isn't getting worse!

Yes, it is getting worse. The quality of the results are a lot worse then before. :-(

And this change didn't happen gradually, but suddenly, a few months ago.

Elgoog
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

I think it's more a case of learning better searching skills nowadays as people try to manipulate the results - which was always going to be the inevitable consequence of such unbounded success.

Yanwoo
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

It definitely is. I now double check on alltheweb, I seem to get better results when google has failed.
Finding product reviews is now crap on google, it certainly was better before. I suspect some of the work they did to kill bloggers hasn't helped here.

Peter Ibbotson
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

It's a good example of how to optimize for Google.

But seriously, report the site here:
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html
and it will be gone soon.

Jan Derk
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

"Google is just a mathematical algorythm that hardly changes over time."

Uh, there was a massive change in the Google search algorithms (admitted by the Google staff) a few months ago. They also have admitted to frequently "tuning" the search algorithms.

Philo

Philo
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

A good friend of mine told me recently that, finally, THEY bought Google. You know ... THEY want to control everything, and more. They already bought Microsoft ... and Intel! THEY are everywhere! Why? They want to control your mind, so they force you to consume ... it has to be a slow consumption, a frustrating one with lots of disappointments. THEY want to disrupt your morality! So THEY keep you away from THEIR secrets! So you don't have energy, money left to travel around, and see what THEY built ... deep in the underground ... And now THEY read this, I know ... Google has me ...

Johnny Bravo
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

shhhh Johnny. THEY don't want anyone else to know.

www.marktaw.com
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

For the conspiracy theorists among us, there's a "Google Watch" site that discusses changes in the algorithm, among other things:

http://www.google-watch.org/

Also, a bit off topic, I followed the link to the porn site and got a kick out of the persistence of the site operator.  (Thankfully I was using the Google Toolbar's popup blocker, or God knows what else would have happened.) 

When you visit the site, you're prompted to download an unsigned ActiveX component entitled "Surf Safe", with no description about what it does.  (Ugh.)  If you click "no," you get increasingly testy messages from popup message boxes:

Message after dismissing first download attempt: "You will need to click YES to install the security certificate.  Please try again."

Message after second download attempt: "IMPORTANT!! You must click Yes to proceed.  You will get free access to our movies!"

Message after third download attempt: "Follow the computer's instructions!  You can not view the movies without accepting the certificate!  THIS IS THE FINAL WARNING, NOT ACCEPTING THE CERTIFICATE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER"

Then, even if you click "no" four times for the ActiveX component, it launches a download of an unsigned .exe to your computer.

I wonder how many people are suckered into downloading (presumably malicious) components like this.  Also, why people like the operators of this web site aren't in jail.

Robert Jacobson
Wednesday, August 13, 2003

And for an alternative opinion on that subject:

http://www.google-watch-watch.org/

Daryl Oidy
Thursday, August 14, 2003

review uninstallers -tees -<whatever>

fool for python
Friday, August 15, 2003

Don't like google? Write your own search engine and use that then.

FW
Monday, August 18, 2003

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