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Alternatives to Google

We've been using Google as our in-site search tool, similar to the way Joel uses it:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000032.html

It worked great -- until we discovered that our company name is pornographic in a foreign language. People who use the Google search on our site get sponsored links for XXX sites!

So I'm looking for a similar alternative. I guess we could try Atomz.com, though it seems a ripoff to me as it did to Joel.

Lesson for the future: make sure your company name doesn't have an unintended meaning in a foreign language. To be fair, our company was named before the Internet boom and we never expected to go global.

I can't divulge my employer's name, but it's not pornographic unless you're from a certain part of Asia.

Nate Silva
Friday, May 23, 2003

Why don't you tell your bosses to forget the product and just sell the domain name?

Stephen Jones
Friday, May 23, 2003

Is it Mulva?  Dolores?

Guy Incognito
Friday, May 23, 2003

Have you checked out kartOO.com? I use it when I want to find related items. They have a site box search engine as well:  http://www.kartoo.net/e/en/produits.php?d=sitebox&p=intro

Nick
Friday, May 23, 2003

Alternatives to Google may be what you're looking for, but that doesn't change the fact that people who search are going to use what *they* want, not what *you* want. It also doesn't change the fact that your name is still pornographic in some languages and any useful search engine will either filter you out along with the porn sites or include porn sites along with yours.
It seems to me that the only real choice is between living with it as is or changing the name.

Ron Porter
Friday, May 23, 2003

Oops. Somehow in all the excitement I completely overlooked the fact that you were talking about your in site search tool. Sorry for any foolishness--I'll try to read closer and think harder next time!

Ron Porter
Friday, May 23, 2003

Try FreeFind.com. We use it on "http://www.axandra.com/news/index.htm".

Andre Voget
Saturday, May 24, 2003

Thanks Andre, FreeFind looks promising. I'll definitely check it out.

Nate Silva
Saturday, May 24, 2003

Ron, KartOO is very high-tech, but maybe too fancy for my site.

And yes, I'm concerned about people who search for us on google.com finding the wrong results. The Google results for our name don't include any porn in the first few pages, but the sponsored links are XXX. As long as people can find us, I don't mind that, but I can't have XXX results on our in-site search.

Nate Silva
Saturday, May 24, 2003

http://www.teoma.com

Prakash S
Saturday, May 24, 2003

I don't know if it works on the sponsored adwords, but have you tried using google with SafeSearch switched on?  I've just looked at the URLs it uses and I think it's controlled using &safe=active.

R1ch
Saturday, May 24, 2003

What web server are you using?
It is possible to run your own indexer?

Our favourite is the excellent open source tool Lucene, found at http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene

Extrememly simple to set up.

Rhys Keepence
Saturday, May 24, 2003

So, maybe you should write to Google and suggest that they base their ads on the location of the requesting IP address? Helps them, helps you, I can't see how they can complain.


Saturday, May 24, 2003

Teoma rules. 

Brian R.
Saturday, May 24, 2003

Check out http://www.boost.org/

Notice their google search filters on domain name.  You should be able to just do something like this.

Oren Miller
Saturday, May 24, 2003

Rhys: We are using IIS.

R1ch: Excellent suggestion. It works! So I have found a solution now.

But we still may change search providers as I've found two, freefind.com and master.com, that provide reporting and better customization than Google.

Nate Silva
Saturday, May 24, 2003

Oren, that looks like the Google setup that we are currently using. If you type a word into it, like fedora, you'll see lots of hat advertisements. We were getting porn ads, but with R1ch's suggestion of adding &safe=active (actually we used <input type="hidden" name="safe" value="added">) we get the same results but without porn.

Nate Silva
Saturday, May 24, 2003

I meant <input type="hidden" name="safe" value="active">. :-)

Thanks everyone.

Nate Silva
Saturday, May 24, 2003

I don't know if you want a free one, but if you are okay with paid one, we use dtSearch ( http://www.dtsearch.com ) on our web site. Works great with IIS, indexes pdfs etc. Very customizable. We have been very happy with it.

Yaniv
Saturday, May 24, 2003

When I use domains= and sitesearch= on Google, I do not get ads keyed off of the domain name.  So people should only see those porn ads if they search for your company name, not if they search for something in a site search.

Jesse Ruderman
Monday, June 02, 2003

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