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Is it me or is FoodTV and cooking common with coders?  I've seen Joel make some referrences along with others to the cooking shows.

"Good Eats" is my fav...cooking, science, history...'tis all good.

Richard Caetano
Thursday, April 11, 2002

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The other day I saw a woman at the gym @ my job get on the elipsisizer and turn on Emeril. I wanted to say something about the irony of exercising to food, but I didn't want to seem like I was hitting on her. That and I was out of breath and sweat from having my heart rate at 165bpm for the past half hour.

</non sequiter that's on topic for the thread but not for the board>

I'm reading this book "Masters of Deception." At one point she compares hacking to cooking. Some people understand what goes together, other people just follow the recipe.

Firefighters also love to cook. I think for them half it has to do with spending 12 hour shifts on the job at any time of day. Maybe coders also spend enough hours on the job that they enjoy cooking? Sure that makes sense, at home you're 'trying' to relax. At work, especially a firehouse, there's nowhere to be but where you are. You might as well enjoy it.

How about an XML/XSLT cook book? Take the XML (ingredients) and parse it through the XSL (cooking instructions)....

Mark W
Thursday, April 11, 2002

Actually, there is a sore lack of good cookbook software - most of what I find still looks and behaves like it's hastily recompiled from the Win3.1 version.

Ivan-Assen Ivanov
Friday, April 12, 2002

I've thrown around some ideas for XML-based recipe tools, but have yet to come up with anything that it would be worth my while to implement.

I currently keep my recipes in text files. I also have a copy of an Access database that my father designed for my mother (he originally used Q&A, then migrated it to Access a few years ago), which contains some of the recipes she's accumulated over the years. Building my own recipe database is something that I might do for fun, but what I'm using now works reasonably well (I cook from recipes 2-3 nights a week on average).

A while ago, I read about RecipeML, an XML markup language designed to describe recipes. (Unfortunately, the URL that Google turns up, www.formatdata.com/recipeml/  doesn't appear to be valid anymore). It looked like a good start, but didn't contain some of the data that I'd want to record (things like whether a recipe is kosher or dairy-free, for example). 

Beth Linker
Friday, April 12, 2002

Get it there:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020213151733/http://www.formatdata.com/recipeml/

Philippe Back
Friday, April 12, 2002

My girlfriend bought one on the $5 and under rack at some software store. She seems to like it. If I had to I'd keep mine in a two-paned outliner like Treepad or... Citydesk. You could add a "kosher" keyword and add a page that pulls in all kosher recipes.

The free version of CityDesk could hold up to 50 recipes.....

Maybe I _should_ sign up for the affiliate program. =)

Mark W
Friday, April 12, 2002

Good idea!  You could setup something like my employee database example:

http://www.stronglytyped.com/Articles/Buildingadatadrivensitewi.html

Richard Caetano
Friday, April 12, 2002

Good recipe management software can do some specialized things that would be difficult to do otherwise--recipe scaling, nutritional analysis, etc.  It knows what things are measured in teaspoons and what things are measured in ounces.  It knows whether an ingredient can be plural ("eggs" and "lemons") or not ("vanilla" and "flour").

It's quite true, however, that the current crop of recipe software has a pretty out-of-date look.  It really does look like 16-bit software.  Maybe it's one of those things that people thought would have a big market "back when" but turned out not to be particularly popular.  Gardening software seems to have suffered the same fate.  It all looks like it was written in 1995.

Chris Dunford
Saturday, April 13, 2002

perhaps this explains

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=open+source+recipe&hl=en&meta=

and

http://bak.spc.org/ice/

among others.

nope
Tuesday, April 16, 2002

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