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Any JDeveloper Users Here?

The organisation I work for has recently decided to adopt J2EE and I believe had chosen Oracle's JDeveloper as the IDE. Has anyone any experience of using this tool? Is it any good? I'm particularly interested in how it compares to JBuilder, as I'm pretty familiar with Borland's IDEs. Thanks.

John Topley
Friday, November 08, 2002

I haven't used JDeveloper extensively but have played around with it a bit. It has a similar feature set to JBuilder in a lot of ways but it's UML features are a lot stronger then JBuilders. I did find it awfully slow though, worse then JBuilder from a performance standpoint. This was on a PIII 600 with 256MB of RAM.

Generally speaking I don't think it be bad environment to work in if I was forced to use it.

Gerald
Friday, November 08, 2002

For J2EE development, you might want to try Glider:

    http://www.ensemble-systems.com/glider.html

Glider provides a fairly basic editor/IDE, but the real strength is that you can run and test your J2EE apps without deploying them on a server. This means you can reduce your code-build-test cycle considerably.

Disclaimer: I implemented some of the back end stuff (parts of the EJB container simulator) so I am biased. That said, I believe that it's actually a pretty useful tool for what you want to do (and as a developer, I'm always the first to criticise any apps I work on!).

Than main thing when selecing a tool is get something that doesn't try to lock you into one EJB container (for example, by generating source code that exploits some implementation quirk of the sever it is deploying to). It is possible to write reasonably portable J2EE code, although I'm sure most vendors would prefer it if you didn't. I don't have much experience with other J2EE IDEs so I can't comment on how good they are - even when I've used fully featured IDEs, I tend to avoid specialised features that autogenerate classes, etc. 

PS:  I do not speak for Ensemble and all opinions are mine, etc - I'm simply speaking as a Java developer with an interest in this stuff.

Rob
Friday, November 08, 2002

I've never seen an application with a GUI come out of Oracle that didn't make me want to cry.

Daryl Oidy
Tuesday, November 12, 2002

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