Mac or Win?
Joel, which Human Interface Guidelines, to your opinion, are more user-friendly and use-oriented, Macintosh (Mac OS X) or Windows?
There is no significant difference between Mac OS X and Windows XP that makes one a better GUI than the other.
The single biggest UI whiz bang feature that the Mac OSX has and that I think Longhorn is getting is the vector based icons. I mean, to resize the icons at any size is a very cool thing. The opportunity for feedback (in the case of the Mac dock when you mouse over) is also very positive for the user experience.
Note that Mac OS X's cool icons are not actually vector graphics. They just have more detailed bitmaps to resize, so it looks cool.
Thanks for the info, I stand corrected.
Ahem, we had it in 2000.
Well, and in Longhorn, it's prevalent in the entire graphics sub-system. For Avalon-targetted apps, you don't think in terms of pixels any more -- and it's about time!
Brad Wilson (dotnetguy.techieswithcats.com)
It's not the right place to ask, but every time I use a Mac I'm confused as to why there's no maximize button. How is it a usability advantage to not be able to, with one click, have your application use the full space your monitors allows?
There is a maximize button under OS X, but it's broken -- it doesn't reliably expand to fill all available space, and then because it's technically just a quick resize routine, the same window size gets applied to all subsequent windows (at least, that's how the browsers handle it). So it's really worse than not having one at all. (=
The main usability feature the Mac currently has that is missing in Windows is a full-featured command line.
Well, if you're in OSX, there's a fullblown UNIX command prompt - as OSX is actually a BSD clone under the hood.
The green button in OS X doesn't maximize a window, it makes it as big as it needs to be. So it's not a bug, it's by design.
Read Dennis's comment again: that was the point of his comment about the command line.
Ah, I see. I've been using this iBook for a year and never got that. I still don't like the behavior, but it makes a little more sense now... (=
Dennis, I hope you recognize the irony :-)
Yes I do recognize the irony! It's a real wind-whacker how much things have changed. If someone told me 5 yrs ago that the Mac would overtake Solaris in Unix sales, I would have thought him deranged.
mind-whacker not wind-whacker
The most significant GUI advantage of Mac over Win , I think, are:
Re: maximizing. In Windows, you can't drag a maximized window, or resize it, yet there's little visual clue that that's what's going on. The usability advantage of the Mac system is that windows are stateless - you can drag and resize them whenever.
A late addition to this thread, but: I've always found the Mac model of window resizing much more useful than the Windows model, because it preserves the illusion of the window as a physical object that you can push around in any direction. The lack of a 'right-size' button in Windows is possibly the most annoying thing ever (apart from Mac programs that don't implement it properly...)
Something I'm missing from the Mac UI is the ability to switch a checkbox from yes to no with the arrow key. I used to do it under Windows and I don't see the advantage of having to click into the box and changing from open to cancel by a mouseclick.
As soon as Exposé was invented for the Mac someone copied it to Windows as shareware (I think) and now the users of Jaguar are in the somewhat bizarre position to not be able to have access to the Exposé functionality without upgrading to Panther (at least 100 USD plus full upgrade say goodbye to some functionality hassle)while Windows users can get it for about 15 USD....
Re: Full screen mode in Macs?
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