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Open Source CityDesk?

If there is really no interest in developing CityDesk any further, how about Open Sourcing it?

Just an idea. I hate to see a good product go to waste. I really like CityDesk.

gmale
Friday, December 10, 2004

Joel has a balance sheet to maintain. Why don't we all pitch in some money, buy it from Fog Creek and then make it open source.

I'm in for 10.00 dollars

In for 10.00 bucks
Friday, December 10, 2004

I'm in too.

gmale
Friday, December 10, 2004

I'm already in for $300.

No longer concerned
Friday, December 10, 2004

If anybody remembers Gravity newsreader, it was open sourced after being on the commercial market for some time. Really worked out for the user community.

gmale
Friday, December 10, 2004

Patrick's CDDBScripter is a great start for "open source" of CD.

I think an open source CLIENT SIDE cms is a great concept!

Client side middleware that handles the template families and publishing, with a scripting language that talks to the db. And a db that is customizable or that connects to an external db.

The html editor? Just throw it away. We all use something else anyways. I barely use the html editor, it's so crimped and the xhtml verification mucks up my js.

Don't bother buying the product from FC. It's not worth it.

Bob Bloom
Friday, December 10, 2004

Bob,

Do you have a link for this CDDBScripter? I can't find it in Google.

gmale
Friday, December 10, 2004

>>Do you have a link for this CDDBScripter? I can't find it in Google.

http://discuss.fogcreek.com/CityDesk/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=13955&ixReplies=10

George Illes
Friday, December 10, 2004

"...you can't take a dying project, sprinkle it with the magic pixie dust of 'open source,' and have everything magically work out."

http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/nomo.html

drawoC suomynonA
Friday, December 10, 2004

Of course it's not a magical solution, but if it's a choice between CD being dead-ended and CD being given a chance to live, I'll choose the latter any day.

Even a slim chance is better than none!

gmale
Friday, December 10, 2004

I have been silently watching one alternative.  Some of the refuges from this group have set up camp there.  I have watched as they influenced the development.  They are bolding shaping the application some of you seek.

I have sought and found
Saturday, December 11, 2004

I am sceptical about buying CD from FC.

My guess is that CD was not coded too brightly. I'd have some seasoned coders have a look at the code first.  And even then...

The reason for CD3 not being realized could well be that FC would have to start from scratch in order to correct some of the bugs that are caused by fundamental design flaws that require at least a major overhaul of much of the code.

...and we know what Joel thinks about rewriting from scratch.... (though I tend to not immediately take the words of anyone who likes to position himself as "the bright kid who's been around" for granted.)

Just my 2c.

Rogn.
http://www.l4a.info

Rognvaldr
Saturday, December 11, 2004

I seems we have a lot of anonymous cowards in this thread.
I like CD and my business rely of it for now ( have done so since the first version). It’s a good, stable program once you get to know it. I think I can live with things as they are for another year or so – maybe longer. I never ever use “normal view” and that keeps me out of a lot of trouble. I use keywords heavily (everything here: http://www.baskerville.dk/index.html is managed by keywords).

I’m also constantly looking for alternatives though I would rather se CD3 released. There has been a few promising projects. One ended up so complicated before it even reached v1 that I bailed out. Another is still in infancy but looks promising. It’s a one-man project (like I suspect CD to be) called Orb Spinner.

The next best thing right now seems to be to build everything yourself. I’ve bought “Database Driven Website using PHP and MySQL” from SitePoint. (But I would still prefer CD3).

IMHO there will never be a version 3. Look around fellows. Have you ever experienced anything positive here in this forum apart from a bunch of very friendly and helpful users and an ever-optimistic core of CD aficionados? I think not. The rest has been rude silence.

Use CD as it is now for as long as it suits your needs. Then forget about it. Stop begging for updates – it’s so pathetic at this point.
Jørgen Brenting
Baskerville Publishing
Denmark

Jorgen B.
Saturday, December 11, 2004

@Jorgen

Thanks for your suggestion of Orb Spinner (http://orbspinner.com/index.html). I had never heard of it, but I spend a few hours checking it out. It seems very powerful. I'll have to spend some more time on it to see whether it can replace CD for my current and forseeable future needs (with currently nearly 5,000 articles, speed being a major issue).

I'm not switching any time soon, but knowing I can doesn't hurt.

Rogn.
http://www.l4a.info/

Rognvaldr
Saturday, December 11, 2004

IMHO OrbSpinner is not there yet, but give it time and will be a CD replacement and more...

anony coward
Saturday, December 11, 2004

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