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Where are all the Sites using CityDesk???

I'm considering purchasing CityDesk for developement of a site for a client. (And teaching them how to use it.) I'm planning on developing the main site and structure with Dreamweaver/Photoshop etc.  And want CityDesk to manage the pages.

From what I've seen all the sites done with CityDesk have a 'blog' look and feel (Articles or clippings of interest.)

Does anyone know of sites that are managed with CityDesk that have more 'style and flare' than the drab boring standard 'blog'?

Please email me or post in this forum...

Thanks...

Joel
Wednesday, August 11, 2004

There are plenty here that don't look like blogs.

http://tk-jk.net/city/Articles/OtherCityDeskSites.html

I'm sure there are many more I don't know about.

tk
Thursday, August 12, 2004

Here is another list

http://www.telepark.de/webwizards/navigation/links/made-with-citydesk.html

And here some selected others

http://www.davidhewson.com/

http://www.zk6.de

http://www.greenteam-freising.de/

Best Regards

Patrick Thomas
http://www.telepark.de

Patrick Thomas
Thursday, August 12, 2004

CityDesk is pretty robust. Anything you can do with static HTML you can do with CityDesk, PLUS you get content management.

Except for the limitation of a CityDesk site being static so it can't do what, say, Amazon does, there's very little CityDesk can't do in the right hands.

www.MarkTAW.com
Thursday, August 12, 2004

And there's nothing preventing you from combining it with some server side scripting...

www.MarkTAW.com
Thursday, August 12, 2004

Thanks for all the sites.. I'm impressed with some of the designs...very non-blogy.  Question regardign the previous comment about being a static site only.  -- Could this work...

Since CityDesk can't actually manage a databse (I think) - what if the files that are managed, were XML files - the person changing the site would just edit the XML file and upload it.. the page it's self would do all the work and presentation, controled by a CSS and XSL files. (As in a .NET enviroment.

Joel
Thursday, August 12, 2004

Here's the list of all the CityDesk sites I know of:
http://cdfaq.pool-room.com/help/index.html#made

Darren Collins
Thursday, August 12, 2004

There is a knowledgebase article on using XML here: http://www.fogcreek.com/CityDesk/kb/howto/WorkingWithXML.html.
I think you can control presentation using CSS but XSLT might be trickier and would probably be run as an external command to the XSLT processor after you publish.

CityDesk cannot manage an external database but HTMLDBScript might do what you want: http://discuss.fogcreek.com/CityDesk/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=13029&ixReplies=3

What kind of problem are you trying to solve?  You can design HTML templates for a big site in designer mode, turn it off and have users just add articles to the folder structure you have designed, using the templates you have designed, with the index pages automatically updated with CityScript.

David Burch
Thursday, August 12, 2004

A few more sites I've put together...

http://www.niftywebdesign.com/portfolio

Tim Jones
Saturday, August 14, 2004

I think the reason that many CD sites have a "Bloggy feel", is that cityscript facilitates the construction of ordered chronological lists, and the like.

The site in my sig is a CD site, it may or may not fit your criterion for being "bloggy".

Robert Pawlak ( www.chessassistance.com )
Saturday, August 14, 2004

A few CD sites created by my company BBd:

http://ci.american-canyon.ca.us

---all the navigation and section links are generated from articles - for example in the section:

http://ci.american-canyon.ca.us/Departments/Community_Services/RecreationClassesandRegis.html

there are numerous pages where multiple listings appear on one page, where each listing item is a separte CD article. This is where CD really shines. I used just about every CD scripting function in this site...

also see:
http://www.halcyonnetworks.com
http://www.dwpta.org

Again, all nav, including dropdown JS menus in dwpta.org, generated based on CD articles, so everything updates as new articles and sections are added.

All these sites are CSS (non-table) based layouts.

CD is great tool for building basic sites, but here are a few comments about using CD in a corporate setting, if that's what you are planning:

1) CD is a good way to go if only one person is maintaining the site, but there is no check-in, check-out capability to ensure multiple users aren't working on the same page, and no permissions/workflow to control who can edit and publish what.

2) CD does not let you select styles from style sheets when editing, and adds deprecated markup; you just have the old FONT SIZE choices in the text menu,so you end up with FONT tags polluting your markup that override the stylesheets; a menu that let you select H1-6 and P tags instead would be better, and being able to assign a stylesheet to a dropdown menu in the ediotr would be best. Any editor today should generate code that validates at WC3, IMHO.

FC needs to look at improving the editor and look at adding content publishing controls if it wants to have an industrial strength product, and maybe it doesn't want to go for that market, although it's 90%  of the way there; it's good, but it's not really a professional tool yet.

I use Ektron CMS 300 for my corporate clients (a bargain, even at $6K - it has most of the features of programs like Documentum at ten times that price) and save CD for the smaller sites where the above shortcomings are less of an issue.

Cheers,
Charlie

ChasInNapa
Monday, August 23, 2004

Hi Charlie,

i have seen in:

http://ci.american-canyon.ca.us/Departments/Community_Services/Recreation_Classes/SummerCamplistings.html

when you enter in a article of "Summer camp listings", the link is removed in the "In this Section" zone.

You have this automated?

bob
Thursday, August 26, 2004

Perhaps you should have a look to the german sites i put together with CD right now and the prosimii template, which meets actually most of my needs.

http://www.media-und-it-service.de
http://www.ox-araber-hoher-flaeming.de

Both sides have to do a lot with horses and horsemansship.

You can add both sites to your listing of CD-sites, if you wish.
regards
Martin

Martin Gürsch
Tuesday, August 31, 2004

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