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I'm trying to spec out a simple intranet using CityDesk.  Any search tools (for intranet users) available that do not expose the information to the rest of the world?  Or any other suggestions?  Thanks.

Guy Bjerke
Tuesday, February 24, 2004

Intranets are private networks that by their very nature cannot be exposed to the outside world assuming that "the router/switch backbone" have been configured properly.

I use CD to build intranet websites ... and the only way that one can access an Intranet from the outside world is to have the "router" provide permissions enabling "accounts" that ability ... normally those type of access privileges are based on "Extranets" and are account specific.

The short answer is that a proper configured Intranet will NOT allow *any* search engine to provide any kind of *external* search query to work regardless of access privileges. However, using a VPN one can become a trusted member of the Intranet which does allow an "internet" search engine the ability to query and return results to the VPN users.

David Mozer
Tuesday, February 24, 2004

OOPS

"However, using a VPN one can become a trusted member of the Intranet which does allow an "internet" search engine the ability to query and return results to the VPN users. "

Should read as "However, using a VPN one can become a trusted member of the Intranet which does allow an **intranet** search engine the ability to query and return results to the VPN users. "

David Mozer
Tuesday, February 24, 2004

Sorry.  I meant - any search tool I could put in my Intranet to use with CityDesk.  Most of the search tools referenced  here assume a public website.  Thanks.

Guy Bjerke
Tuesday, February 24, 2004

I've used J-Objects Quest Agent to good effect on limited sites.

http://www.jobjects.com/

It's a java based program that indexes your site and creates the databases as static files that don't need to be run off a server. For example, I put on on one of my Oreilly library CD's & burned a copy.

You'll have to run it every time you update your site, but if you don't update that frequently, it should be ok.

www.MarkTAW.com
Tuesday, February 24, 2004

And have you checked Sourceforge?

http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=93

14. Lucene.Net search engine - Lucene.Net is a complete up to date .NET port of Jackarta Lucene a hight-performance, full-featured text search engine written entirely Java. See http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene for more info on Jakarta Lucene.

19. Sperowider - Sperowider Website Archiving Suite is a Java app that takes dynamic websites, creates static distributable archives, and creates a full text search index to be used by a Java applet that then provides search capabilities on the static archive.

27. ht://Dig - The ht://Dig system is a complete indexing and searching system for a domain or intranet. This system is not meant to replace the need for powerful internet-wide search systems like Lycos, Infoseek, Google and AltaVista.

etc.

www.MarkTAW.com
Tuesday, February 24, 2004

Guy Bjerke :re Intranet Search Engine

If your Intranet site is using Windows as a server for your Intranet then you could use that native search capabilities of IIS [Internet Information Server]. I have found that IIS is one grade above all other search engines and is lightning fast – in fact its faster than lightning. :-).

David Mozer
Wednesday, February 25, 2004

David -

Thanks for the information.  Just what I was looking for.  I found additional help here:

http://www.iisfaq.com/default.aspx?View=P17&P=1

Now making it work...

Guy Bjerke
Wednesday, February 25, 2004

Guy.

You will aslo find the following link most helpful.

http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200002/wd_02_25_00h.html

David Mozer
Wednesday, February 25, 2004

Thanks, David.  Even better.

Guy Bjerke
Wednesday, February 25, 2004

Our Citydesk based intranet uses Indexing Service on IIS / Win2k as its serch engine. A bit basic and very badly documented but it works. There is  a good newsgroup microsoft.public.inetserver.indexserver
which I found very useful in developing ours.

Iain F
Thursday, February 26, 2004

Bit late in the day, but I have only just bought CityDesk following evaluation.

Zoom Search (www.wrensoft.com) seems to be ideal for CD. It is free for 50 pages and is $99 for unlimited.

It takes command line args including a configuration file.

You need to set up a dummy search.asp file in the CD site as well as an article to reflect your search results page. The indexer can run either in remote spider or local file mode. I have set it up to run on the post copy publish line.

Within the config file you can set up categories (say article folders) and exclude either folders or html you do not want to index.

Simon Ghosh
Sunday, May 09, 2004

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