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Current Version of CityDesk 2.0.20 ?

I've observed that the following site http://citydesknews.com/
is being generated by CD version 2.0.20

Is this version available to the general community of CityDesk users?

I like to make sure that I have the most recent version running.

David Mozer
Thursday, January 22, 2004

A while back the Fog folks said that even numbered versions weren't for release.

tk
Thursday, January 22, 2004

Thanks tk.

In view of the fact that CD 3.0 now is slatted for who knows when .. CD 2 needs to have a host of bugs fixed so hopefully we will get "that" in the near term.

One bug that I am now finding extremely annoying is the *poor* switching behavior of  normal view and html view – at the very least CityDesk should warn the user that “whatever” will not be retained if the switch takes place and provide the option of canceling the switch and not losing “the work” – especially for those that work in htlm view and want to see the result in normal view via WYSIWYG.

David Mozer
Thursday, January 22, 2004

I'm sure the Fog Creek guys have heard this before but I'm going to keep on seconding comments like this one.

This fix is crucial for anyone trying to do reasonably sophisticated sites that will be worked on by non-specialists - or even just the non-careful, which at some time or other is all of us.

David Walker
Thursday, January 22, 2004

I second also. I find that I always hesitate to use CD if building a site for a client or a friend and then hand it off to them to continue with CD. I just feel that they will have problems and I won't have the time to explain all of the things they can and can't do.

Yea, being able to use true wysiwyg without messing anything up would be a plus.

Also, the ability to insert tables would be nice and other html tags. If even there was a way to pop up a list of html tags from within CD would be nice. As well as a pop of css tags.

I still use CD myself for everything I do on the web.

john cesta
Thursday, January 29, 2004

John C. wrote: "I find that I always hesitate to use CD if building a site for a client or a friend and then hand it off to them to continue with CD."

I second that. CD is simply not a mature product yet. Even though Joel Spolsky is obviously having a great time promoting it all over, I'm not willing to spoil whatever good reputation I may have by recommending CD to people who would have to pay for it and then spoil their own site with it. I use it myself and that's it.
However experience (since this forum started) has shown that writing here does not have any affect whatsoever on Fog Creek. This forum is NOT a line of communication, as a few still assume, and the extremely few persons writing here doesn't count at all at the bottom line in Fog Creek's ledger. Face it folks, that's why we got a translation into German when everyone was led to believe that CD3 would be out. This is about money not about anything else.

Jorgen Brenting
Friday, January 30, 2004

> I'm not willing to spoil whatever good reputation I may
> have by recommending CD to people who would have
> to pay for it and then spoil their own site with it.

I think thats neither fair, true nor wise. We have customers updating their internet and intranet sites, from small companies to multinationals. Every single user working with CD (no exception so far, which is pretty impressive to us too) enjoys it and recommends it. In fact, its even used as a front-end to a Lots-of-Dollars Enterprise CMS because the latter is utterly unusable and unproductive.

There are things about CD which annoy us and one or two which are a "problem" in the field: Preview times in larger projects are way too long, paste without formatting is not that clever, automatic multi-level navigation is not really supported...etc but they in no way offset the overall speed and ease of use.

> This is about money not about anything else.

What would you suggest basing your business decisions upon if you have to make a living from it ?

Regards

Patrick

Patrick Thomas
Friday, January 30, 2004

Hi Patric,
>What would you suggest basing your business decisions
>upon if you have to make a living from it ?

Money of course. I didn't say it was wrong. I just pointed out how things work in the real world.

Don't get me wrong. I think CD is a great product - warts and all. But mature. No, not yet.

Jorgen Brenting
Friday, January 30, 2004

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